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Aca Vuksa
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:14 am
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Could JETRO report it about Serbia too?
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wewhomustnotbenamed
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:36 am
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also france manga market is 5 times more productive than the whole US manga market. when a series topping in bookscan ranking or NYT manga ranking (RIP), they were usually 40-10 K at tops, but france marked can generated 100 K at tops.
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Brett-Butler
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:17 am
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It's a pity the report itself is in Japanese, if it were translated it would make from some very interesting reading for myself.
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Яeverse
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:58 pm
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wewhomustnotbenamed wrote: | also france manga market is 5 times more productive than the whole US manga market. when a series topping in bookscan ranking or NYT manga ranking (RIP), they were usually 40-10 K at tops, but france marked can generated 100 K at tops. |
Sources? Links? 2019 numbers?.
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Tempest
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:26 pm
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wewhomustnotbenamed wrote: | also france manga market is 5 times more productive than the whole US manga market. when a series topping in bookscan ranking or NYT manga ranking (RIP), they were usually 40-10 K at tops, but france marked can generated 100 K at tops. |
Яeverse wrote: | Sources? Links? 2019 numbers?. |
I can't confirm his numbers (5X seems a lot to me), but France is definitely a larger manga market than the USA.
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Ouran High School Dropout
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:57 pm
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Quote: | [France] ranks fourth in the number of contracts with Japanese anime production companies, behind the United States, South Korea, and Taiwan. |
Woah! Is there a company in France that does what FUNi and Sentai do for English-speaking fans? How about for manga?
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Takagami
Joined: 18 Nov 2018
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Location: Somewhere in France's capital
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:42 am
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Ouran High School Dropout wrote: |
Quote: | [France] ranks fourth in the number of contracts with Japanese anime production companies, behind the United States, South Korea, and Taiwan. |
Woah! Is there a company in France that does what FUNi and Sentai do for English-speaking fans? How about for manga? |
The French Anime streaming market is mainly shared by three companies: Wakanim (holded by Aniplex), Anime Digital Network (ADN for short) is owned by Kazé which also holded by VIZ Media Europe, and the last one is Crunchyroll (No need to present huh ). Amazon Prime Video have a very small catalog in comparison (and they take a lot of time to publish French subtitltes). Netflix has its own animes, bought some expired translated licences from the three first or others series which have not licencied before.
For the manga market, we have a lot of publisher : Delcourt/Tonkam, Doki-Doki, Kana, Kazé, Ki-oon, Kurokawa, Ototo, Panini, Pika Édition, and and plenty others.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:03 pm
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I find it interesting animation and anime are still considered niche in the UK. It seems like in the US animation is liked by adults as much as it by kids, particular in the 20-30 year old demographic, and anime is also popular with older audiences. If anything, it seems like outside Pokemon, kids anime has a hard time getting on US TV. Like we still haven't gotten the dub of Yugioh Vrains in the US even though it's been airing in Canada for some time now. I wonder what accounts for this difference in attitudes towards animation and anime between US and UK culture.
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GeorgH
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:22 pm
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Takagami wrote: |
Ouran High School Dropout wrote: |
Quote: | [France] ranks fourth in the number of contracts with Japanese anime production companies, behind the United States, South Korea, and Taiwan. |
Woah! Is there a company in France that does what FUNi and Sentai do for English-speaking fans? How about for manga? |
The French Anime streaming market is mainly shared by three companies: Wakanim (holded by Aniplex), Anime Digital Network (ADN for short) is owned by Kazé which also holded by VIZ Media Europe, and the last one is Crunchyroll (No need to present huh ). |
Titles avaiable at ADN seem to be dominated by Kana, as Kazé France took several steps back in licensing.
The physical anime market in France seems to be quite small - e.g. Ancient Magus Bride got a limited print run of only 1.500 copys for am extremely low price. Most other series got even lower print runs
In the US, approx 4 times more anime got dubbed (excl Netflix and TV stations)
Physical market:
Kana - holds e.g. Fairy Tail + One Piece + Naruto = largest company
Kazé - holds e.g. Hero Aca + New Captain Tsubasa + many classics
Anime Ltd - partners with Crunchyroll, Aniplex and Gundam for physical releases
Black Box - very vew titles
Dybex - popular classics + sub-only releases
If you exclude some mainstream titles (Pokémon, Naruto, One Piece, Dragon Ball), the UK market should be bigger. The reason is: Most popular shonen don't get TV-airings in the UK (and some are even blocked for streaming)
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shosakukan
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:18 am
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Aca Vuksa wrote: | Could JETRO report it about Serbia too? |
A recent JETRO article related to Serbia is about Toyo Tire Corporation's plan to build a factory in Serbia because of Serbia's wage level's being low.
According to the Ministry of Finance,
The total value of Japan's exports to the U.K. (2018) is
1,534,000,000,000 yen.
The total value of Japan's exports to France (2017) is
702,400,000,000 yen.
The total value of Japan's exports to Serbia (2016) is
1,700,000,000 yen.
The 'cultural relationship' sections on the webpages about the U.K. and France on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs mention things related to anime and manga such as Japan House in London and la maison de la culture du Japon à Paris. But the webpage about Serbia on the site does not mention such things. (The 'cultural relationship' section on the webpage about Serbia has only a few lines, and they are about Japan's giving musical instruments and equipment to art/cultural organisations in Serbia for free and Japan's giving Serbia equipment for language education and implements and materials to restore cultural heritage of Serbia for free.)
The Tokugawa Bakufu had ordered their translators to learn English already in 1809. Edo-period doctor-scholar Murakami Hidetoshi, who would later be decorated with l'ordre national de la Légion d'honneur, learnt French in the mid-nineteenth century. It is said that the first course on the Serbo-Croatian language at higher-education institutions in Japan was the course at Osaka University of Foreign Studies and it was opened in 1988. Ms Ljiljana Nikolić-Jamagishi, who was born in Beograd and taught the language at Osaka University of Foreign Studies passed away in 1998, and Osaka University, which absorbed Osaka University of Foreign Studies, now does not have a course on Serbian. Even Tokyo University of Foreign Studies does not have a course on Serbian.
In comparison to Japanese people's being interested in the U.K. and France, probably Japanese people take far less notice of Serbia.
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