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jree78
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:14 pm
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When I was in Michigan in high school the senior class trip was to Washington DC, the french departments class trip was to Paris.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:02 pm
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Caveat in that I went to a very rich public school, but there were plenty of optional domestic and international trips, particularly for the music classes and the language classes. The one “typical” trip my year went to was a paid trip to the local movie theater and an overnight stay at a Dave & Busters (an arcade, basically. No idea if these are still around).
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Oronae
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:55 pm
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Answerman wrote: | It's part of an educational philosophy in Japan known as "gyakkuzukuri", or "creating childhood," that's meant to foster strong emotional bonds with their class. |
What word was this supposed to be, since I can't seem to find it in Japanese, and your romaji here only returns this article as a result?
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papa-san
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:32 pm
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Great question and a great answer. I love reading Answerman.
Smaller trips to ryokan(inns) and large cities like Kyoto and Tokyo are indeed real. A teacher friend of mine in Tokyo takes her graduating middle school class to Kyoto every year.
I have hosted Japanese students and teachers for 16 years. Private schools will have a bit more elaborate programming for graduating high school students that might include a trip abroad. Teachers I have hosted have told me that for trips abroad, e.g., Australia, New Zealand, Canada and US, the kids and families start preparing about a year away from travel time.
The trip is expensive ~$6000 and so every effort is done to make sure the kid and family are fully prepared and get their money's worth. Kids will start by going to information sessions that will feature videos, and presentations from senpai. Kids will do extra lessons and homework to learn about the destination, the culture, food, table manners (e.g., use a knife and fork, don't slurp, etc.) and work on English. I have seen the material that are given to students. They're putting in a lot of after hours effort to be able to go!
When students leave after their 2 or 3 weeks it really breaks your heart to see the kids cry and not want to go home. But, you can't help notice the satisfaction on the teacher's faces. They've done their job. The trip will leave an indelible impression and great memories that will last a lifetime.
If you live in a destination where Japanese schools go you should consider hosting. It's been a wonderful and enriching experience for me and my family. We've met so many wonderful young people and their teachers. And I've picked up a couple very good friends in Japan that are always happy to spend the day when I'm out that way.
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Time Bandit
Joined: 16 Jan 2017
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:07 pm
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whiskeyii wrote: | Dave & Busters (an arcade, basically. No idea if these are still around). |
Still around. I just went to the one near me the other day. Always a fun time for gamers and drinkers, heh!
As for the article itself, a very cool question and read. I remember back when I was in high school in Wisconsin, our Spanish class got to go on a trip every few years alternating between Costa Rica and Spain, and just as long as you got a passing grade in the class, you could go on the trip. My class got to go to Spain. I will never forget it in my lifetime.
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EricJ2
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:14 pm
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Quote: | It's nowhere near as glamorous as anime would have you believe. I found a few blogs from exchange students who were quite underwhelmed by the experience. |
Now you've got me flashing back on that scene from Persona 5, where the gang goes on their class trip to Hawaii, and realizes "Wait, there's nobody here but OTHER Japanese tourists!"
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Neohybrid_kai
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:35 pm
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Oronae wrote: |
Answerman wrote: | It's part of an educational philosophy in Japan known as "gyakkuzukuri", or "creating childhood," that's meant to foster strong emotional bonds with their class. |
What word was this supposed to be, since I can't seem to find it in Japanese, and your romaji here only returns this article as a result? |
I think its supposed to be "gakkyuu dukuri/gakkyuu zukuri"
papa-san wrote: | Teachers I have hosted have told me that for trips abroad, e.g., Australia, New Zealand, Canada and US, the kids and families start preparing about a year away from travel time. |
So the fund is from saving, sounds plausible, though now it makes the one in anime (that involves character from poor family) seems less realistic.
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Joe Mello
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:45 pm
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I'm pretty sure I passed by school trips on each of my trips to Japan. At least one in Kamakura and one in Tokyo Station
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Wandering Samurai
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:27 am
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For my middle school trip we rode the shinkansen to Kyoto. It was pretty nice to see all the different scenery and then one of the bad boys in my class brought alcohol into his hotel room. Teacher found out and had a fit. High school we went to Okinawa and it definitely was a time that our class got closer since my particular class didn't change for the whole three years I was in high school. We also went to one of the war memorials for the Battle of Okinawa and got to watch a movie that had testimonies of survivors, there wasn't a dry eye in the room after it finished.
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Ushio
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:15 am
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Ushio wrote: | I don't know if they still do it but when I was in the last year of primary school in the UK (10-11 years old) we had a week long class trip to France. |
Well, it is pretty easy when Schengen pretty much abolishes borders for those living within EU. A privilege UK soon won't have anymore... |
My school trip to France pre-dated the Schengen agreement and the UK never agreed to it anyway.
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Aphasial
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:23 am
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It's interesting to see the variety of responses in the US. I think it really depends on the availability, funding, and geography presented to your local school district.
Here in San Diego, CA, the largest school district (San Diego Unified, which makes up about half the county) has 5th or 6th grade "camp" (depending on the grade range). This is a week-long trip to a location in the mountainous back country area of the county. There are a couple of different ones, so if your school got to go to the "best" one that year that definitely counted for bragging rights.
My junior high (7-8-9) was a Magnet school, but each year there was a class trip of some type in the spring that usually lasted for a few days, or a full week if travel in California was involved:
* 7th grade - "Sea Camp" -- all-day activities at Sea World here in San Diego, but you didn't actually stay overnight anywhere
* 8th grade - Yosemite trip (two days camping, three days at a structured learning center)
* 9th grade - actual backpacking/camping trip at Kern River
In all cases, we had to either fundraise for the cost or pay out of pocket.
In high school, we didn't have a classwide trips of any type, although "grad night" at Disneyland was definitely a thing. Depending on what electives you were taking, though, something might be offered by that department, but AFAIK you always had to deal with paying for it.
What folks in other countries might not realize about the US is how freaking huge it is, so there's rarely any reason to go internationally for anything like this unless you're in a very well-off school, or one having a good reason to offset the cost (eg, band/cheer championships).
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 8:41 am
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partially wrote: | Yeah, class trips in Australia aren't all that unusual. Although they are year group trips usually not class. |
Except I remember them being more a primary school thing than a high school thing. Also usually referred to as a school camp, though I think at my school only one of them actually involved tents; generally there were purpose-built sites with rooms with a number of beds or bunks to sleep in, though it was standard to take a sleeping bag rather than proper bedding.
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crosswithyou
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:58 am
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Yes, school trips are real. I've had the pleasure of being on the same plane as them several times. Okinawa, Sydney, Washington DC, Hawaii, Vancouver, etc.
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Mr. sickVisionz
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:44 am
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I saw this in anime and was like, "oh I guess every country does this then" because it's totally a thing that happens in the US.
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Even in show like Toradora! where the main lead character is very clearly poor, but the issue of funding for the big class trip never comes up. |
Isn't the main character's mom an escort or hostess that was making good money?
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Key
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:10 pm
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Mr. sickVisionz wrote: |
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Even in show like Toradora! where the main lead character is very clearly poor, but the issue of funding for the big class trip never comes up. |
Isn't the main character's mom an escort or hostess that was making good money? |
She was a hostess, but they were still poor based on the condition and location of their apartment.
While I think there may have been an optional pay-your-way trip offer or two back in my day, there wasn't anything approaching an all-inclusive class trip at my decidedly-middle-class high school - definitely not on the level seen in Japan. The closest thing was our marching band going on multi-day trips every year (we did several major parades, including Macy's), but we were an elite program so that wouldn't necessarily be typical.
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