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Araragifeels
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 Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:01 pm
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I don't feel so good. I feel that Crunchyroll will go through big changes and these changes are coming from the top, AT&T. I am just hoping that I don't see more stuff like "High Guardian Spice" coming to Crunchyroll instead I would rather Crunchyroll produced/co-produced anime and make improvement.
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64BitRatchet
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:06 pm
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| Araragifeels wrote: | | I don't feel so good. I feel that Crunchyroll will go through big changes and these changes are coming from the top, AT&T. I am just hoping that I don't see more stuff like "High Guardian Spice" coming to Crunchyroll instead I would rather Crunchyroll produced/co-produced anime and make improvement. |
Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years.
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Araragifeels
Joined: 06 Sep 2017
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:11 pm
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| 64BitRatchet wrote: |
| Araragifeels wrote: | | I don't feel so good. I feel that Crunchyroll will go through big changes and these changes are coming from the top, AT&T. I am just hoping that I don't see more stuff like "High Guardian Spice" coming to Crunchyroll instead I would rather Crunchyroll produced/co-produced anime and make improvement. |
Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years. |
I know that but I am trying to say is that I don't want Crunchyroll to waist money on non anime show instead keep investing on producing/co-producing anime.
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HoboSoup
Joined: 06 Aug 2017
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:27 pm
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| Araragifeels wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: |
| Araragifeels wrote: | | I don't feel so good. I feel that Crunchyroll will go through big changes and these changes are coming from the top, AT&T. I am just hoping that I don't see more stuff like "High Guardian Spice" coming to Crunchyroll instead I would rather Crunchyroll produced/co-produced anime and make improvement. |
Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years. |
I know that but I am trying to say is that I don't want Crunchyroll to waist money on non anime show instead keep investing on producing/co-producing anime. |
I agree with you, also my main worry is potential censorship in the future. Crunchroll is currently airing Goblin Slayer and hasn't backed down from that, they added a brief warning at the start of episodes which is fine. I'm worried about when the next controversial show comes out what might happen, maybe they'll censor it themselves or remove it from the site all together.
Even if you hate Goblin Slayer you should defend people's right to watch it, and the creator's ability to make it. Censorship sucks and it affects all of us.
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Lord Oink
Joined: 06 Jul 2016
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:51 pm
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| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years. |
Being a name on the production committee list =\= co-producing anime. Unless Crunchyroll has their own team of animators and writers, they're not actually co-producing anything. Afterall, most of those shows are based on existing works like manga or light novels. Their name on the production committee essentially means they get first dibs on licensing/streaming rights.
( although the idea that CR was behind certain titles they're on the production committee for like Dies Irae does lead to some funny implications  )
But yeah.. the head guy stepping down now does seem suspicious in light of recent going-ons.
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Яeverse
Joined: 16 Jun 2014
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:07 pm
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"bright future" doesnt sound so good as its often followed by "he has a bright future ahead of him if he can get through these challenges"
I assume the loss of funi and ATTs declining relevance as well as VRV's uncertainty and lack of actually desiring to expand to mainstream relevance is leaving CR in a pretty terrible place. With only BLack CLover and Boruto/Naruto Shippuden supporting it, they will be left behind by the other players in the space.
I bet price increases will soon be forthcoming.
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I_Drive_DSM
Joined: 11 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:28 pm
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| HoboSoup wrote: | | I agree with you, also my main worry is potential censorship in the future. Crunchroll is currently airing Goblin Slayer and hasn't backed down from that, they added a brief warning at the start of episodes which is fine. I'm worried about when the next controversial show comes out what might happen, maybe they'll censor it themselves or remove it from the site all together. |
They're also airing Senran Kagura this season which if you only watch on mobile you'll miss it as it's one of their series they have to stream desktop. SK is offered both in an uncensored version only available to premium CR users and a censored version that releases like their shows typically do (premium the second it's released, and then made available to all users). It's actually a novel way to release the series since it gives an incentive to go CR premium, and is something I could easily see them doing to many more future shows. SK series of course being somewhat relevant in regards to what the game side of the series is currently going through (particularly with Sony).
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omoikane
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:05 pm
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| Lord Oink wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years. |
Being a name on the production committee list =\= co-producing anime. Unless Crunchyroll has their own team of animators and writers, they're not actually co-producing anything. |
The best producers only need to bring together the right creators and the right sponsors, the rest will produce themselves. CR might be a money source in a lot of their coproductions but that is, well, what coproducing anime takes.
But please, keep talking the talk, just shows you've not seen Wooser.
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relyat08
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:24 pm
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| Lord Oink wrote: |
| 64BitRatchet wrote: | | Crunchyroll has been co-producing anime for years. |
Being a name on the production committee list =\= co-producing anime. Unless Crunchyroll has their own team of animators and writers, they're not actually co-producing anything. Afterall, most of those shows are based on existing works like manga or light novels. Their name on the production committee essentially means they get first dibs on licensing/streaming rights. |
That's not what co-producing is. You don't need your own teams of animators and writers to co-produce something, hell you don't even need those things to entirely produce something. By that logic, many major animation studios and production companies in Japan, like Aniplex, A-1 Pictures, CyGames, etc, don't produce anime either, since most or all of their shows are animated/written by freelance animators and writers. Production in the context of media is literally acquiring funding and bringing creators together, not physically making the project.
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HoboSoup
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:46 pm
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| Яeverse wrote: | | "bright future" doesnt sound so good as its often followed by "he has a bright future ahead of him if he can get through these challenges"
I assume the loss of funi and ATTs declining relevance as well as VRV's uncertainty and lack of actually desiring to expand to mainstream relevance is leaving CR in a pretty terrible place. With only BLack CLover and Boruto/Naruto Shippuden supporting it, they will be left behind by the other players in the space.
I bet price increases will soon be forthcoming. |
What? How are Black Clover and Naruto the "only" things keeping them afloat? I'm sure those series get a good amount of views and money, but I hardly would say they're the only things that do. There's other series on there that are popular, One Piece for starters.
Plus even the smaller collective of niche shows with a smaller amount of fans add up.
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mrakai
Joined: 30 Oct 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:48 pm
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Sounds like the blackout period to cash out after the acquisition is up.
Very common for acquired companies to see leadership and talent drain when they are no longer contractually obliged to stay and have a pile of cash or stock to fall back on.
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teferi
Joined: 16 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:37 pm
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| Quote: | | Waage commented, "We have big plans to create more 360-degree experiences for fans via content, games, merchandise, events, and more." |
Oof. That's a load of corporate buzzword speak.
I just hope that they aren't losing sight of the fact that most of their subscribers don't have any use for CR outside of watching anime.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:33 pm
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| Araragifeels wrote: | |
I know that but I am trying to say is that I don't want Crunchyroll to waist money on non anime show instead keep investing on producing/co-producing anime. |
Which also has the potential to be a waste of money.
| HoboSoup wrote: | |
I agree with you, also my main worry is potential censorship in the future. Crunchroll is currently airing Goblin Slayer and hasn't backed down from that, |
Not sure why they would've backed down from airing Goblin Slayer simply because of it's content.
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they added a brief warning at the start of episodes which is fine. I'm worried about when the next controversial show comes out what might happen, maybe they'll censor it themselves or remove it from the site all together. |
I've never heard of them doing either of those things so I don't know where the worry is from especially since some of the stuff they air is edited anyway.
| HoboSoup wrote: | | Even if you hate Goblin Slayer you should defend people's right to watch it, |
...Yeah it's kind of hard to defend people's right to watch an anime of something that's become infamous for depicting sexual violence against women. If you want to watch something like that specifically for the above reason that's fine but the idea of sticking up for people's right to watch content specifically for that reason is not the debate you really want to have.
| HoboSoup wrote: | | Censorship sucks and it affects all of us. |
In this particular instance no it doesn't.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:50 pm
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I wonder why there isn't the same outrage towards Crunchyroll co-producing the Blade Runner anime like there is over High Guardian Spice.
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Chester McCool
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:12 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | I wonder why there isn't the same outrage towards Crunchyroll co-producing the Blade Runner anime like there is over High Guardian Spice. |
I would guess because people actually like Blade Runner. Although it being CG kills my interest in it, personally.
| teferi wrote: | | I just hope that they aren't losing sight of the fact that most of their subscribers don't have any use for CR outside of watching anime. |
I feel that's exactly where this is heading. Crunchyroll wants to be a brand name, not just an anime streaming website. They've been moving that way for a few years now with their podcasts and short video series.
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