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Scalfin
Joined: 18 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:52 pm
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Quote: | extremely mixed responses |
A mix of what, mockery and befuddlement that it exists?
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Beatdigga
Joined: 26 Oct 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:01 pm
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Stop trying to make Black Clover a thing.
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CaRoss
Joined: 11 Nov 2014
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:05 pm
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Black Clover would have been such a better series if Noelle was made the central viewpoint character.
She's the exact sort of underdog that Shonen Jump thrives off of - having far more in common with Naruto and Izuku than Asta does - and would be such a great protagonist to follow.
That said, Black Clover as it is now is just a mediocre shonen romp that has some absolutely fantastic moments as it goes along, but nothing that really manages to stay consistent and elevate the story beyond its basest instincts.
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Blood-
Bargain Hunter
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:21 pm
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I think BC has gotten better. I've never really felt the "glacial pace" complaints. To me BC moves at the standard pace of any long shonen series. Anyway, I think this TWIA column is a bit unfortunate. If I hadn't been watching BC already and read this, I probably wouldn't bother checking it out. I'm sure Jake and Nick had fun coming up with their gags, but I feel like the sum total of them paints an overly negative picture of the series.
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GoldCrusader
Joined: 25 Apr 2017
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:41 pm
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Black Clover has been fun since the start, it just has its anti-fans that like to make a lot of noise. Im a huge fan of the first 4 episodes. Also, It actually got really good recently. Asta showing everyone why he is so awesome.
So yea the BC hate has and is still way to overblown. It's a fun and simple shonen. Glad to see it's doing really well both in JUMP's ranking and on Crunchyroll.
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Key
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Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley)
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:49 pm
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CaRoss wrote: | That said, Black Clover as it is now is just a mediocre shonen romp that has some absolutely fantastic moments as it goes along, but nothing that really manages to stay consistent and elevate the story beyond its basest instincts. |
This, in a nutshell, is also how how I would evaluate the 20 episodes to date. Never seriously thought about dropping it but it's never a priority view, either.
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Takkun4343
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:50 pm
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Beatdigga wrote: | Stop trying to make Black Clover a thing. |
NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT FETCH JMAN.
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Vycey
Joined: 27 Oct 2016
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:10 pm
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Blood- wrote: | I think BC has gotten better. I've never really felt the "glacial pace" complaints. To me BC moves at the standard pace of any long shonen series. |
But that's part of the problem imo. Black Clover isn't a long runner like One Piece or Naruto, but it has had the same pacing problems since episode one.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
Joined: 20 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:11 pm
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^ Not to mention that early One Piece went at a pretty good clip. Today's One Piece... well, there's a reason I've dropped it and don't plan on buying more of the series.
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Blood-
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:22 pm
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Vycey wrote: |
Blood- wrote: | I think BC has gotten better. I've never really felt the "glacial pace" complaints. To me BC moves at the standard pace of any long shonen series. |
But that's part of the problem imo. Black Clover isn't a long runner like One Piece or Naruto, but it has had the same pacing problems since episode one. |
I should also point out that I haven't read the manga, so that may also be influencing why I'm not feeling that things are moving particularly slow. I have no basis of comparison.
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Scion Drake
Joined: 25 Nov 2017
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:22 pm
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The pacing is genuinely awful. Its like watching modern One Piece & I hate modern One Piece. There's a reason why One Piece was canned from Toonami.
Though yeah this is where BC picks up a better groove to being decent. Ya can't go wrong with a zombie invasion (helps that Rades is my favorite villain though that's not saying much cause most of the villains in this series suck) & hopefully its more of a spectacle with the rest of the Captains involved though that mean that the animation has to get a boost.
Also helps that a decent supporting cast starts overshadowing Asta. Seriously Asta is by far the worst part of this show next to sister lover & the less of him the better.
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Zin5ki
Joined: 06 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:29 pm
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Apropos of little, I have to admit that I keep failing to mentally distinguish Black Butler from Black Clover. I have no defence here; I simply haven't turned enough attention to the matter whenever one or the other is mentioned.
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Cardcaptor Takato
Joined: 27 Jan 2018
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:43 pm
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Even putting aside the other issues, I can't get past the goofy character designs which I can never take seriously especially Asta.
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zrnzle500
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:25 pm
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My favorite gag was at the end of episode 19, where, instead of Asta's usual "Never giving is my magic!", he says "Being loud is my magic!" Someone on the show's staff knows what's up.
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CookieXL
Joined: 05 May 2016
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:44 pm
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Ohh boii. This comment section isn't going to end well.
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