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Yuvelir
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I thought it was supposed to be more of a waifu/husbando category. But then again, even in those MHA has no business dominating that much when tehre are so many shows entirely dedicated to that. |
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Angel M Cazares
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Silly me just noticed that Yakumo is actually nominated for best boy. Still, there are no Scum's Wish characters nominated.
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Stuart Smith
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The matter regarding Lesbian/Brother's Husband seems fairly obvious. They're the progressive choices. They're not popular, but for critics who value that stuff over all else, they'll push for those. You see it all the time in western critic awards. I find the biggest suspect being the lack of MHA in the manga category. It's in so many categories (and rightfully so) but somehow not the manga category, which is the original, biggest source material? Odd, to say the very least. I could forgive them for shutting other other big titles that also have no reputation in other categories like One Piece, Haikyu, or Boruto, but they are clearly aware of MHA and its beloved status. It's like they wanted to make sure that specific category wouldn't have an obvious winner, in hopes the 'right' choices were more likely to win. -Stuart Smith |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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How on Earth did you not notice that every title on the manga list debuted in English in 2017? |
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Chrono1000
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Agent355
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I'm a big manga reader, and most of the manga judges are critics I've heard of and have been following reviews from for years. So far, I've only read Golden Kamuy from the nominations list, which is pretty mainstream, popular, and can't be accused of having a "PC agenda" by even the most cynical fan.
My biggest problem with the manga category is that it's only one category, and it doesn't distinguish between completed series/one shots like Loneliness and ongoing series like Golden Kamuy. I've heard great things about Lonliness and would challenge anyone to explain how one of the most popular graphic novels on Amazon, which has been getting reviews from people outside the manga bubble, was chosen "just because" it's "PC" (read: about a lesbian's personal experience). But even if I read all the nominations before the voting date, how can I compare a memoir one-shot like Loneliness to a long running seinen like Kamuy? Or a fantasy series like Delicious in Dungeon? They're all different genres of different lengths. Crunchyroll should do a separate manga awards. |
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relyat08
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I agree that it deserves them all, generally, but I still think there needs to be a cap regardless. And I can think of other shows that deserve a few of those spots as well. I was fine with MiA not being in best animation because I briefly thought there might be some kind of cap initiated and it already had 5 nominations, but then I counted MHA and it has 10!. Regardless of how good something is, I think there should be an attempt to expand the potential winners a little more than that, is all. And yeah, I know all the MHA fans will think I just hate the show(I actually really love it) and that this is perfectly fair, but many of them were the same people who were decrying the lack of justice last year when Yuri on Ice won 7 categories. 
And there will be some level of outcry and this exact same problem every year that a single show wins the a significant number of categories.
If they were going for "I want to date this character" awards, they failed there too though. Outside of MoriMori and maybe Chise, none of the "Best Girl" nominees are really dateable at all. And the "Best Boy" nominees only have a couple that are kinda dateable too. |
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Merida
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So on the one hand, nominating a popular show in a lot of categories is bad, at least as long as it's "fujoshi bait" like YOI (which automatically equals low quality, of course...), but on the other, hand nominating a series which isn't popular is also bad and "too PC", at least if it features LGBT characters?
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Agent355
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^It's also "too PC" to have more girls than boys in the hero category, which someone should have told Miyazaki decades ago!
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Yuvelir
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So you're suspicious of the priorities of critics because you have one category with a lot of gay and one category with a majority of girls (which I must remind again, nowadays we have more noteworthy female heroes than male ones). Two categories. Out of 17. (and as an aside, there isn't a lesbian relationship in Loneliness, there's just an intercourse... if we can even call it that. The gross of the story is about something else altogether)
Waifu means a lot of things nowadays! Anyway, my point was that how the characters are written isn't what matters but rather how... endearing they are, specially on the female side. Either way, I also don't buy that there weren't good enough males and females to fill in both categories that MHA needed to double dip in those two categories. It's cheap and blatant favoritism. |
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Okya subaru-san-
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I'm happy to see detective conan in the list of "best continuing series "
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kotomikun
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The current trend in certain political circles is to dismiss the social commentary inherent to almost all stories, and works of art in general, as "PC." This kills two birds with one stone by letting them feel superior to critics/intellectuals, and supporting their (unstated? subconscious?) beliefs about how the world should be.
Whether you like it or not, pushing boundaries and making controversial statements has always been an essential part of artistic expression. Like anything else, it can be done badly, but when done well it earns praise... from some people, and scorn from others, for exactly the same reasons. |
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GoldCrusader
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Todoroki and Deku are just that great and same for Tsuyu and Uravity. I'd be hard pressed to find that many suitable best other then them. Maybe Kotaro and Eita from Tsukigakirei and Just Because!. But they are less best then them.
In the end it's good for the other nominees of both these categories. It will split the MHA votes. Giving them more of a chance and all. |
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Yuvelir
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I don't know the exact criteria for those categories so I can't say for sure, but I can definitely name both better developed and more endearing characters than Tsuyu and Midoriya-shounen from the series I've watched this year. More popular might be harder for Todoroki and Midoriya, but definitely not for Tsuyu. Not all stories are the same genre but all stories do have characters and most of them also happen to be beings that can be identified as male or female. The pool of possible characters is HUGE, enough that you can easily fill a list of 6 notable characters of one specific gender. |
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