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NEWS: Pokémon GO Game Details Gym, Battle Updates

Finally, the 52000 point gyms will get torn down.

But hey, where's the Instinct Gym in that 3-Gym picture! This is discrimination!

Finally, the 52000 point gyms will get torn down.

But hey, where's the Instinct Gym in that 3-Gym picture! This is discrimination!

In my opinion, this update appears to be quite more promising as Gyms are about to change hands more easily.

Has this really been an issue though? The only gyms I've seen really last a good while (often even level 10s) is if they're fairly inconvenient to get to. Any gyms that see people with even a small degree of frequency rarely last half a day (if not more than an hour). If they wanted to see more gym activity, it seems like it'd be better to change the reward operation. Make it something like you only get 1 coin and 50 stardust, but you can claim every hour. Limiting a player to once per hour gives me no incentive to do anything with gyms for the rest of the day once I claim rewards.

(Also, LOL with their efforts to make people care about berries)

Most of the Gyms I've seen are near untouchable, with Pokémon placed there by people who have been playing this game relentlessly ever since it first came out. The only people who can challenge them are people similarly obsessed with the game, and anyone who picked up the game even the slightest bit late can never hope to compete as these guys keep getting stronger.

The game mechanics make this pretty impossible. The only way a gym would even be close to "untouchable" is if it's stacked top to bottom with Blisseys, and even then if you have one person to assist you can do it relatively smoothly. I'm not saying you'll beat it QUICKLY, but you can definitely grind it out. (it's only tough because if only 1 person, a max Blissey can get you to "timeout" if you don't lay down serious damage) But anything else, you can pretty much grind out wins and slowly knock the thing down in a "worst case" scenario. I took down a level 10 last week that had several Dragonites, and the only issue is several of them were strong enough to 1-shot my weaker fighters. (I only JUST hit level 31 by the way)

But attackers have too many advantages in the current scheme for gyms to be unassailable.

Can Gyms be replenished with new Pokémon by the owners? It seems like every time someone challenges one of these Gyms, especially in the aforementioned Montrose area, there's a different, fully replenished Pokémon by the following day, if not earlier than that.

The other problem with the previous system, is in an area like that that's "active" and held by one team, you'll never hold that gym, so you have no incentive to take it unless you just want to take ONE gym and claim reward, and done. (or if you SPECIFICALLY want to spite that team) It's usually better to go to either a remote area or an area for YOUR team and put pokemon in several gyms then claim rewards. Which is why I said they should've lowered the claim amount but increased the frequency. Having it at only once per day discourages messing with loaded gyms unless you're REALLY confident you're gonna take several really quickly.

With the new system it sounds like you gotta keep the Pokemon happy, but under the old system you had to train the gym back up and then you could put a new Pokemon in. (which is why you rarely got a gym with a bunch of Blisseys because then you yourself had to beat them just to train it up) It's also why gyms generally were easier to beat than to train. If you beat a Pokemon you'd knock it down at least 500 prestige, but training had a minimum of +100 prestige. So you could knock them down faster than people could train them up if you got into a fight over a gym. You also knew exactly what you were fighting (so could setup type advantages) whereas the gym holder had no idea what would come to fight.

As an example, if you knock a 52,000 prestige (max amount previously) Level 10 gym down to less than 50k, then the bottom Pokemon got knocked out. So you could just fight the bottom 2 or 3 mons until you got it down to 7 Pokemon in the gym. Rinse. Repeat. Since you get 6 to attack with, you should be able to beat at least 1-2 pokemon in a gym before all yours are knocked out unless you have nothing at all of note in your roster. The only reason Blissey are tough is because the type advantage is lousy + rare, and Blisseys have WAY too much HP.

The other problem with the previous system, is in an area like that that's "active" and held by one team, you'll never hold that gym, so you have no incentive to take it unless you just want to take ONE gym and claim reward, and done. (or if you SPECIFICALLY want to spite that team) It's usually better to go to either a remote area or an area for YOUR team and put pokemon in several gyms then claim rewards. Which is why I said they should've lowered the claim amount but increased the frequency. Having it at only once per day discourages messing with loaded gyms unless you're REALLY confident you're gonna take several really quickly.

Can the Gyms still be taken by someone on another team if there's someone nearby ready to put another strong Pokémon there?

One other thing, if your specific issue has been gyms that actually have been "actively" defended, then this change is bad for you. The new system doesn't really do anything about gyms that people keep an eye on, in fact it actually encourages that behavior, whereas the old system was more "put em in and leave em there till they get bumped".