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REVIEW: Yu-Gi-Oh!: The Dark Side of Dimensions

Well this is the dub so I'm surprised the script got such a high score when the japanese version is much more mature and has a deeper story. Really this movie is in everyway a sequel to the original manga so all the stuff the reviewer was confused about with ghosts and dimensions make sense if you have read the manga. Read the manga if you have the chance, the anime really didn't do it justice neither dub or sub.

I'm just surprised that the reviewer gave the Animation a B- and the art a B? Like really? This movie looks incredibly good, moreso than any YGO anime ever made. Yeah there are some far shots that look kind of bad and the animation can be clunky but it's definitely not "almost average" tier animation. Definitely disagree on that aspect.

But yeah as far as the dub goes it surpassed my expectations, mainly because I had none in the first place, but it made me even more eager to see the japanese version later on.

It's too bad we have to wait for a probable home video release of a subtitled version, because I would love to see a review that properly compares both versions..

Really this movie is in everyway a sequel to the original manga so all the stuff the reviewer was confused about with ghosts and dimensions make sense if you have read the manga. Read the manga if you have the chance, the anime really didn't do it justice neither dub or sub.

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Really? People generally consider the anime superior adaption to the manga. The manga ran into a lot of issues with Takahashi being hospitalized and also editorial meddling that the anime fixed, especially in the final memory world arc. The anime is even the basis for the sequel series as opposed to the manga. But anyway, unless I'm forgetting something I don't see how this movie doesn't fit into the animeverse as well, they are more or less the same story regardless. The Japanese version also uses the anime voice cast so that's not all on 4Kids.

-Stuart Smith

1dbad wrote:

It's too bad we have to wait for a probable home video release of a subtitled version, because I would love to see a review that properly compares both versions..

Movie are aways the one weakness of fansubs. Having to wait for Japanese home release can be excruciating long.

Calculus20 wrote:

Really this movie is in everyway a sequel to the original manga so all the stuff the reviewer was confused about with ghosts and dimensions make sense if you have read the manga. Read the manga if you have the chance, the anime really didn't do it justice neither dub or sub.

Really? People generally consider the anime superior adaption to the manga. The manga ran into a lot of issues with Takahashi being hospitalized and also editorial meddling that the anime fixed, especially in the final memory world arc. The anime is even the basis for the sequel series as opposed to the manga. But anyway, unless I'm forgetting something I don't see how this movie doesn't fit into the animeverse as well, they are more or less the same story regardless. The Japanese version also uses the anime voice cast so that's not all on 4Kids.

-Stuart Smith

Really? People generally consider the anime superior adaption to the manga. The manga ran into a lot of issues with Takahashi being hospitalized and also editorial meddling that the anime fixed, especially in the final memory world arc. The anime is even the basis for the sequel series as opposed to the manga. But anyway, unless I'm forgetting something I don't see how this movie doesn't fit into the animeverse as well, they are more or less the same story regardless. The Japanese version also uses the anime voice cast so that's not all on 4Kids.

-Stuart Smith

Really? People generally consider the anime superior adaption to the manga.

As a person who's read the manga and watch the anime I can tell you that there are a few differences between the 2 versions, for instance that manga is a lot darker than the anime is and this isn't even taking the 4Kids dub into account. Also the anime was played up as an advertisement for the trading card game so even parts of the manga that originally had nothing to do with duel monsters like the DDM arc had duel monsters elements added to them. The anime also didn't adapt the first 7 volumes of the manga so the more important event's from the manga like Yugi's first meetings with Bakura & Shadi and the 1st and 2nd duel with Kaiba were inserted in various places of season 1 in abridged format.

Also Kaiba was written out of the story after battle city in the manga which is why it makes a lot more since for the movie to be a sequel to the manga and not the anime, since he wan't present during Yugi & Atem's duel.

For example, in the anime Kaiba was never put into a coma by Yugi, but the story still tries to act like he was, with Pegasus taking over his corporation and kidnapping Mokuba

ryoukosan245 wrote:

As a person who's read the manga and watch the anime I can tell you that there are a few differences between the 2 versions, for instance that manga is a lot darker than the anime is and this isn't even taking the 4Kids dub into account. Also the anime was played up as an advertisement for the trading card game so even parts of the manga that originally had nothing to do with duel monsters like the DDM arc had duel monsters elements added to them. The anime also didn't adapt the first 7 volumes of the manga so the more important event's from the manga like Yugi's first meetings with Bakura & Shadi and the 1st and 2nd duel with Kaiba were inserted in various places of season 1 in abridged format.

Those differences were actually what I was talking about. The card game was what fans loved in Japan. Every attempt Takahashi made to try to move away from it was met with criticism from the fans. After Duelist Kingdom, he tried to focus on DDM but fans complained, so editors complained, and thus Otogi and his game were shelved to the background. The anime "fixed" this by adding in Duel Monsters to the arc since that's what fans complained about in the manga version. Cut forward to the Memory World where the manga lacked the whole duel monster aspect, and interest in Japan plummeted, forcing Takahashi to wrap it up sooner than expected in the threat of cancellation. The anime again "fixed" this by adding in more Duel Monsters elements to it, like the characters summoning monsters to help out.

I say "fixed" in quotes because it's up to you if you accept them as improvements or not. But as far as Japanese fans were concerned, Yu-Gi-Oh! is about card games. The early portion of the manga wasn't really popular either, and it wasn't until Kaiba and Duel Monsters popped up did it take off, and fan demand brought Kaiba back. The anime more or less took this cue to skip the early manga stuff, similar to Yu Yu Hakuho, and jump straight to Duelist Kingdom, offering in some admittedly rushed introduction for Kaiba and Bakura, as those were the only 2 important aspects of the early manga's game-of-the-week stories.

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Also Kaiba was written out of the story after battle city in the manga which is why it makes a lot more since for the movie to be a sequel to the manga and not the anime, since he wan't present during Yugi & Atem's duel.

I can see that, but I'd still argue even being present in the final arc can still have Kaiba feeling a lack of closure since he never beat Atem in a duel that didn't involve him threatening suicide.

Xeogran wrote:

For example, in the anime Kaiba was never put into a coma by Yugi, but the story still tries to act like he was, with Pegasus taking over his corporation and kidnapping Mokuba

I believe the explanation for that in the anime was stockholders losing faith in Kaiba after his lose to Yugi, which introduced the Big Five and their deal with Pegasus and kidnapping Mokuba for his key to KaibaCorp. The Big Five were just shadowed figures in the manga, but made more prominent characters in the anime where after Duelist Kingdom Kaiba actually tries to fire them, leading to the virtual world filler where they 'die', and then later Noa where they try to take over everyone's bodies to escape the virtual world.

-Stuart Smith

The dub version tries to spin the whole generic "Kaiba wants to be the best and finally beat Atem" for the umpteenth time. But it's not really like that at all in the japanese version.

Other differences from the manga include things like Pegasus being dead, rules of Duel Monsters, Yugi's end goal etc.

Disappointing, but not surprising. Kaiba's character arc had the worst changes in the original Yugioh dub, so I figured we were in for more of the same as soon as I heard the movie was Kaiba-centric.