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NEWS: Dragon Ball Super to Simulcast on Crunchyroll, Daisuki, AnimeLab

Meh, I don't care what the excuse is. A full-grown adult like Goku should not sound like an old-lady (he doesn't even sound like a child) no matter what his personality is.

I realize it's Dragonball, and it's not exactly realistic... but this notion of keeping the voice actors forever, even when the character grows up (physically, I'm aware Goku hasn't really grown up mentally) is jarring in situations like this.

People always say "The voice works because of Goku's child-like personality blah-blah-blah" but you don't have to literally MAKE the voice sound childish (and again even in that aspect it fails, because he sounds more like an old lady, which is exactly who is voicing him, talented she may be) to accomplish that. What happened to good ol' writing and voice direction? Which brings me to my next point...

I think Sean's CURRENT take of Goku (I'm aware back during the early FUNi days it was terrible) is much better. Keeps him at his age, but sounds childish, aloof and carefree when he's not serious. Annnnd.... he has his own pre-puberty voice that didn't carry over into his adult-self, as it should.

Yeah yeah yeah, Toriyama wanted it this way, doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it. I accept that it's this way because obviously it won't change but that doesn't mean I won't speak my mind about it.

I feel this way for Adult Naruto keeping his voice, as well.

Is episode 47 and the beginning of the Future Trunks arc the start of new material? I know DBS began just retelling the story from the 2 recent movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, but I don't actually know what episode that stuff ended and the new content began.

Funny, that.

romanmack wrote:

Meh, I don't care what the excuse is. A full-grown adult like Goku should not sound like an old-lady (he doesn't even sound like a child) no matter what his personality is. I realize it's Dragonball, and it's not exactly realistic... but this notion of keeping the voice actors forever, even when the character grows up (physically, I'm aware Goku hasn't really grown up mentally) is jarring in situations like this. People always say "The voice works because of Goku's child-like personality blah-blah-blah" but you don't have to literally MAKE the voice sound childish (and again even in that aspect it fails, because he sounds more like an old lady, which is exactly who is voicing him, talented she may be) to accomplish that. What happened to good ol' writing and voice direction? Which brings me to my next point... I think Sean's CURRENT take of Goku (I'm aware back during the early FUNi days it was terrible) is much better. Keeps him at his age, but sounds childish, aloof and carefree when he's not serious. Annnnd.... he has his own pre-puberty voice that didn't carry over into his adult-self, as it should. Yeah yeah yeah, Toriyama wanted it this way, doesn't mean I have to agree with it or like it. I accept that it's this way because obviously it won't change but that doesn't mean I won't speak my mind about it. I feel this way for Adult Naruto keeping his voice, as well.

I notice in your rant, you don't mention having a problem with Mayumi Tanaka continuing to voice Kuririn into adulthood. Or Hiromi Tsuru continuing to voice Bulma (who was only a little older than Goku and Kuririn to start with).

Funny, that.

Mhm, ok... I might have cared about DBS a year ago. So, I am guessing the rumors of Toei refusing to simulcast it because they first wanted a U.S. tv run were not true.

penguintruth wrote:

Funny, that.

It's kind of pointless to argue with people who think they know better then the director and the majority of fans. They can't stand that their opinion is not ahred by the majority so they have to yell loud and clear how much they dislike it.

Even with the sound of the voice aside, Nozawa's acting subtleties are unbeatable, the way she delivers Goku's lines that has the charm any of the English VAs have lacked. And she can switch between Goku, Gohan, and Goten at the snap of the fingers and make them each unique-sounding.

Then by all means, wait for the English dub. At least it's been accurate recently.

But the simulcast will be in Japanese, with the intended cast.

Then by all means, wait for the English dub. At least it's been accurate recently.

But the simulcast will be in Japanese, with the intended cast.

Is episode 47 and the beginning of the Future Trunks arc the start of new material? I know DBS began just retelling the story from the 2 recent movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, but I don't actually know what episode that stuff ended and the new content began.

I really never minded the dub-casting for DBZ all that much. What really gets to me is the evisceration of the script, to the point where I was willing to sit through Grandma Goku to the point where it actually grew on me tons. That said Kai, Battle of Gods and Ressurection F had no such issues so I could go either way on those,

Barbobot wrote:

Is episode 47 and the beginning of the Future Trunks arc the start of new material? I know DBS began just retelling the story from the 2 recent movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, but I don't actually know what episode that stuff ended and the new content began.

The new content begins with the arc before that one, which is the Universe 6 arc.

I really never minded the dub-casting for DBZ all that much. What really gets to me is the evisceration of the script, to the point where I was willing to sit through Grandma Goku to the point where it actually grew on me tons. That said Kai, Battle of Gods and Ressurection F had no such issues so I could go either way on those, even if I'm still a bit more partial towards the Japanese dub.

Barbobot wrote:

Is episode 47 and the beginning of the Future Trunks arc the start of new material? I know DBS began just retelling the story from the 2 recent movies, Battle of Gods and Resurrection F, but I don't actually know what episode that stuff ended and the new content began.

The new content begins with the arc before that one, which is the Universe 6 arc.

penguintruth wrote:

Then by all means, wait for the English dub. At least it's been accurate recently. But the simulcast will be in Japanese, with the intended cast.

"intended cast"?

You do realize that for shows like DB (most shows actually) the english cast also has to be approved by the original creators right? Which means Toriyama (or at the very least the directors and producers of the db franchise) picked these actors to represent the characters just like they did for the Japanese cast.

Funny how a lot of people forget that when they get into these huge debates of "who sounds better".