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AnimeLordLuis
Posts: 1626 Location: The Borderlands of Pandora |
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To be honest I found the Pokémon English openings to be pretty catchy hell I even enjoyed the 4kids Shaman King opening.
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Kadmos1
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I think liking the horrible dub openings is mostly from a nostalgia factor. Also, some people prefer some of the 4Kids voices of One Piece to the Funimation and even Japanese version.
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torreyjs
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A lot of the dubs sound better than japanese OPs. At least I can understand them, but since I skip all op/eds its not something I ever noticed much.
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omiya
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I do wonder after hearing the examples in this article how many of the dub singers take the song seriously. The Japanese singers appear to treat each OP/INS/ED song as something that they'll be remembered for the rest of their lives, and give each song their best effort. |
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NeoStrayCat
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I mentioned that same exact thing, back when this article came up, funny that this one is back on a trip to memory lane due to no new "List" this week, lol. And I'm sure that Rave Master's Dub intro song got mentioned before, so...yeah. And yes, for those on the mentioned that thought CCS needed a re-release, it did, thankfully, by NISA, so times did change. (Though they only had the Animax dub to work with that release.) Also, yeah, I'm used to cringe-y, and hammy dub songs, some good, some bad, some for the nostalgic value. Although the funny surprise, something like Viewtiful Joe, when it came out stateside, it kept the original JP song "Brighter Side", although it was a condensed version, with its own US intro. |
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Animegomaniac
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This is why I didn't comment on the List the last time. This is one of the English openings, no, either openings that I never skip. "Hold on to the dream.." and all that, right? I'm pretty sure I have the DVDs just for it. I don't care about how it's sung, it works in English for me,. Those DBZ Kai openings? I find those unbearable and I'll take earnest though... bad, really? I'll just stick with "earnest"... karaoke over horrible written lyrics sung without life. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Desa said
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nobahn
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OK, I must confess that I, too, like Barry Manilow! |
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st_owly
Posts: 5234 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland |
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Yep, I still hate that Ouran song dub. The singer can't sing, and it's a great example of trying to force a translation to a melody which clearly doesn't fit....
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enurtsol
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Ya gotta consider the economics here - just follow the money. To start with, cartoon shows in America aren't out to sell CDs, unlike the Japanese. Due to trade unions, US VAs tend to be better paid than Japan's seiyuu, who then have to make it up and supplement their income by singing the show's songs and selling CDs. And since they're not out to sell CDs and make money that way, US shows don't put in much money to making show songs. (Why spend thousands of dollars making songs when not gonna make their money back that way?) What US shows do need is for people to remember what the show is, even subconsciously, ergo the show's name is in the theme song. Because it doesn't help the show sell when people may like the theme song but don't know the name of the show. (Kinda like a memorable commercial ad yet people don't remember what it's advertising, e.g. that Super Bowl Darth Vader boy ad for Volkswagen - people remember the boy and the ad, but they don't realize which car it was, so in the end it was useless to VW.) Dub singers and song writers won't make any money back from their dub songs (apart for the one-time fee as work-for-hire) since it's not their songs in the first place - it's based on the Japanese songs, so it's the Japanese song writer and singer who would still get paid. They cannot afford to invest too much time and resources on it when they're not earning anything off of it. It's better to put more effort into it when they're the ones who stand to benefit most (e.g. original songs, like that aforementioned DiC Sailor Moon CD). |
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Lizzie_B
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At least the 1st English op of Yuyu Hakusho was tolerable cause it wasn't as upbeat and the singer didn't sound like an amateur. |
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Guile
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Is there any hard numbers on salaries? Because I usually hear animation tends to be pretty low ball in terms of pay and prestige. Even video games pay more which is why you see a lot of voice actors jumping ship to the video game industry like Laura Bailey, or why movies use celebrity voices instead of established cartoon voice actors. The only exception I've heard is The Simpsons which is where most of the show's budget goes to. If we go by Shirobako's word seiyuu usually get the biggest paycheck out of everyone. I think you're mistaken on theme songs though. The seiyuu aren't the ones that usually sing those. OPs and EDs are usually done by established bands and artists. You might be thinking of character songs which are what character seiyuu sing.
Well in Japan OPs and EDs can become the top-selling single on the music charts so for all intents and purposes they're treated just like regular songs in terms of respect and popularity. It's still a part of their careers so they're going to put as much effort into it as they can. Some popular singers even get their start through anime OPs and EDs. There is no Western equivalent for animation, but those former Nickelodeon and Disney stars like Miley Cyrus and Arianna Grande are examples of this practice in America. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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According to this article, even Japanese seiyuu get paid meager salaries for their voice work in an anime show. |
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enurtsol
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Union work is union pay, regardless if it's video games or the screen. Even Kari Wahlgren jumped ship even when it meant going from prolific anime celebrity to less glamorous union work. And many productions nowadays are owned by big studios, so that's pretty much guaranteed to be union pay scale. Another big thing is residuals, which seiyuu don't receive.
Which doesn't mean much when everybody gets paid so low.
Any song so long as they can earn CD and performance sales out of it. Basically, rule of thumb in any industry is: if they can earn something off it, they'd put more resources into it. |
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omiya
Posts: 1848 Location: Adelaide, South Australia |
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Nana Mizuki Minori Chihara Yukari Tamura Eri Kitamura Iori Nomizu Maaya Uchida Kishow (GranRodeo) Mamoru Miyano Daisuke Ono plus the voice actresses from the Idol-based Anime (e.g. Love Live) are all voice actresses and actors who also do OP and ED songs. |
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