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Kougeru
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:47 pm
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Quote: | creating the anime with an eye on the global market |
Nooooo!
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KH91
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:59 pm
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I know, right? That image is already raising alarms.
Good luck. Can't wait to see Genocidal Organ.
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Sobe
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:20 pm
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I'm not exactly sure what the article it trying to imply but when I first saw the article title I kept thinking "the sequel to Argevollen?!"
And then I read the article; Oops, wrong title, lol.
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relyat08
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:15 am
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Sobe wrote: | I'm not exactly sure what the article it trying to imply but when I first saw the article title I kept thinking "the sequel to Argevollen?!"
![Embarassed](/bbs/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif) And then I read the article; Oops, wrong title, lol. |
haha, that's exactly what I first thought!
It seems like, pretty much every time someone has openly stated that their anime work is targeting the Global market, it has failed, so not sure what to think of this. And it always felt like Gonzo was targeting the global audience when they were more prolific... and that didn't end up too well for them.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:28 am
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So, "global market" is the new buzzword, akin to what "multimedia" was, executives do not have an idea of what it really entails, but no one wants to miss the boat.
This does not look promising to me, sounds like many has beens have found an [s]sucker[/s]investor and no one will remember this project one year after it ends (unless it crash and burns really bad). Hope to be wrong,
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:49 am
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Not the global market! Oh, the horror of it all!
Seriously though, this looks like one of many, many light novel based anime.
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TD912
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:14 am
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Eh, I'll give it a chance. Right now it's just a bunch of marketing speak so we'll see what happens when it actually airs.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:24 am
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Sounds like a project from Cool Japan
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Rensie
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:10 am
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Quote: | ...Emon's first project, and it is creating the anime with an eye on the global market. |
Will be probably a huge crap, pass.
You know, i watch anime because of the japanese culture, adapting an anime to please westerners tastes will only turn out generic, childish and politically correct.
Hoepfully this wont be a trend but an isolate case.
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macattack
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:02 am
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Rensie wrote: |
Quote: | ...Emon's first project, and it is creating the anime with an eye on the global market. |
Will be probably a huge crap, pass.
You know, i watch anime because of the japanese culture, adapting an anime to please westerners tastes will only turn out generic, childish and politically correct.
Hoepfully this wont be a trend but an isolate case. |
And yet, that is exactly what certain people around here advocate for. Hmm...
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Nyron
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:40 am
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this article is trash. Can someone link to the image or the section of the Japanese website that has information about this? Why would put a 100px thumbnail into the article?
{This sort of language shall not be tolerated. ~nobahn}
While usually anything that "intends" to be for a global market is bad (because Japan doesn't understand anything outside its own borders, it seems), I'm not going to think ill of any show that has bigger ideas than "lets use the same 10 brain-dead, pandering tropes and call it a day." i wonder when they'll realize that the best way to hit the "global market" is to just make a good show?
And shame anyone who badmouths Gonzo, blessings and peace be upon its name. Gonzo's problem was its inability to write a coherent story. Looking back on a lot of Gonzo works, I give mad respect to their ambition. Gonzo was always trying to establish new and original settings and art styles, and they pioneered the use of CGI in anime. If there were a button to shutdown 5 of the bad studios we have today to get a handful of new Gonzo Originals, I'd hit it so fast.
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Blackiris_
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:54 pm
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Nyron wrote: | And shame anyone who badmouths Gonzo, blessings and peace be upon its name. Gonzo's problem was its inability to write a coherent story. Looking back on a lot of Gonzo works, I give mad respect to their ambition. Gonzo was always trying to establish new and original settings and art styles, and they pioneered the use of CGI in anime. If there were a button to shutdown 5 of the bad studios we have today to get a handful of new Gonzo Originals, I'd hit it so fast. |
This was years ago. Studios change, and Gonzo has clearly changed for the worse. Much, much worse.
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relyat08
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:35 pm
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Nyron wrote: |
While usually anything that "intends" to be for a global market is bad (because Japan doesn't understand anything outside its own borders, it seems), I'm not going to think ill of any show that has bigger ideas than "lets use the same 10 brain-dead, pandering tropes and call it a day." i wonder when they'll realize that the best way to hit the "global market" is to just make a good show? |
You pretty much just hit the nail on the head! And this is why people are disenchanted with any anime that is targeting the "global" market. No one wants global anime, we want good anime. And when any upper level anime producer comes out saying he wants to make a "global" anime, it just shows a failure to understand that.
Quote: | And shame anyone who badmouths Gonzo, blessings and peace be upon its name. Gonzo's problem was its inability to write a coherent story. Looking back on a lot of Gonzo works, I give mad respect to their ambition. Gonzo was always trying to establish new and original settings and art styles, and they pioneered the use of CGI in anime. If there were a button to shutdown 5 of the bad studios we have today to get a handful of new Gonzo Originals, I'd hit it so fast. |
Isn't writing a coherent story kind of important? Not saying I totally disagree with you, but the reason people tend to hate on Gonzo, and the reason why I do, is because they made a lot of really terrible anime that could have been great if someone competent had been given the reins. Not to mention that their use of CG may have been pioneering, but it was still shit.
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:42 am
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relyat08 wrote: |
Nyron wrote: |
While usually anything that "intends" to be for a global market is bad (because Japan doesn't understand anything outside its own borders, it seems), I'm not going to think ill of any show that has bigger ideas than "lets use the same 10 brain-dead, pandering tropes and call it a day." i wonder when they'll realize that the best way to hit the "global market" is to just make a good show? |
You pretty much just hit the nail on the head! And this is why people are disenchanted with any anime that is targeting the "global" market. No one wants global anime, we want good anime. And when any upper level anime producer comes out saying he wants to make a "global" anime, it just shows a failure to understand that. |
Why can't a globally-targeted anime be a good anime? Even if it has never happened before, there's a first time for everything. (I'd say Naruto Shippuden at its peak was already global in viewership though, and no doubt the second season of Attack on Titan will be done with a global audience in mind.)
I would definitely agree that whenever Japanese executives for anime talk about a global market though, they really don't understand it all that much. (Other industries, however, are quite different. Japanese car manufacturers know the global market very well, even if Honda had a rough time at first and found accidental success. Big-time video game companies too, like Nintendo and SEGA, the latter even making games with western markets in mind during the 90's.)
The idea that anything that aims for the mainstream automatically makes it bad makes one come off as a hipster who likes obscure things because they're obscure and dislikes popular things because they're popular. I don't believe for a second that there is anybody here who truly dislikes everything that's ever been mainstream.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:06 am
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leafy sea dragon wrote: | The idea that anything that aims for the mainstream automatically makes it bad ... |
TBT, anime executives are not really aiming for the mainstream, because, just like comic books in the USA, they are not no longer mainstream back at home (the fact that most new anime is shown as infomercials after midnight should have been a hint). What they want is to be niche in more countries.
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