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INTEREST: Manga Editor Provides Glimpse of Lolicon Magazine's Standards

So it is illegal in the US? That's a bit frightening given I collect doujinshi. I've been doing it for years with no problem, but the fact I could be charged with child pornography if someone wants to contest the ages in them is a bit unnerving.

I live in swiss near italy border, and is absolutely false, in italy drawing of every kind are 100% legal and not an issue, the only law about virtual cp was made for photomontages of real people not computer generated images. You have to update your source.

The last restrictive laws and debates are just the consequence of western organization pressures, forcing them to censor their own art and sanitize the country based on the western morals, this is true disgusting, creating fear, issues and charging people for drawings and thoughts crimes that never existed in Japan.
Westerners and their hypocrit moral are the true cancer and menace for anime and manga, and art as a whole.

There is nothing like this in Japan, is just a fabrication made in the west, ero manga are called eroge and they cover the whole genre, they don't have any subgenre. Who read these manga are regular people.

mangamuscle wrote:

Arale Kurashiki wrote: For every handful of people reading such material and not letting it affect them, there's a future criminal viewing such material as validating. You are going down the road of "Drawings/prose/(video)games where people are killed are helping future criminals feel validated".

Video games (or anything else, but because the player kills in games, I'll talk about that) where people get killed usually have some kind of story behind why it's happening. Even when the reason behind it is simple, there's hardly ever a glorification of real-world violence. And violence is something that's hammered into us as wrong growing up. So it's very much a different thing.

When it comes to porn, though, the only point of the work is sexual appeal. And pedophilia is something people often don't talk about, so it's much easier to subconsciously see it as not a big deal. Murder's terrible too, but we hear a lot more about murder than rape because, as horrible as it sounds when put this way, murder is a more socially acceptable topic. So it's considered "obviously wrong" in anyone's minds, while the things that people aren't willing to acknowledge or point out are in a more controversial area. You'd be surprised how totally warped somebody's logic can get without exposure to criticism or alternative ideals.

I'm not a psychologist though, so I can't go as in-depth on this as somebody else could.

So it is illegal in the US? That's a bit frightening given I collect doujinshi. I've been doing it for years with no problem, but the fact I could be charged with child pornography if someone wants to contest the ages in them is a bit unnerving.

A lot of Japanese people find the availability of lolicon to be disgusting and are very embarrassed by it. The recent laws that restricted the sales and display of a lot of manga in Tokyo had the general support of the public.

It's extremely easy to see if you visit the country, and it has been covered at length by western and Japanese media.

Sorry, you're as wrong about this as I was about Italy.

Why normalize or support that kind of imagery?

(One side is just defending and excusing, and the other side isn't actually getting through.)

"Hanafuda tells the supernatural tale of Izuna, a noble turned demon hunter, travelling across Japan to slay the oni that stole the life of his beloved Lady Kiri. Izuna encounters a young fox that possesses the ability to shapeshift and the duo journey together to exact revenge on the oni."

Not at all, unless you i visited Japan 2 times and the only place where you can find sexy images of everything is Akibahara. I admit my trip was just for anime and manga but i visited Shibuya and Ginza too and i didn't find anything offensive.

Anyway there is nothing wrong to sexualize drawings and virtual characters, they do not rapresent any living human being,

The bigger problem is with Teenage girls, and older men. The're an entire industry built around it, and it has a name: The JK Business. JK stands for joshi kousei, or "high school girl."

It's not the "average manga fan" or even the "average ero-manga fan," it's "fans of 9-year-old girls," in that particular case.

I merely wanted to point out that your beliefs about how this material is perceived, marketed and consumed in Japan were rather inaccurate. It's very similar to the belief that "everyone in Japan reads manga," it's something we'd all like to believe, but it simply isn't true.

I merely wanted to point out that your beliefs about how this material is perceived, marketed and consumed in Japan were rather inaccurate. It's very similar to the belief that "everyone in Japan reads manga," it's something we'd all like to believe, but it simply isn't true.