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whiskeyii
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If the tweet is supposed to be taken at face value, and not just tongue-in-cheek, then I'd have to wonder if girls being on the cusp of puberty is more appealing for folks who like lolicon, thus the age restriction.
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littlegreenwolf
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I really can't agree to this. You're talking about a culture that celebrates penis imagery yet outlaws vaginas because they're considered too lewd. The actual word is censored in hentai magazines, and women are being fined and thrown in jail for producing art of their own body parts. Seeing a cartoon woman topless isn't that big deal maybe, but an actual woman in the street? Anyway, I think Japan as a culture is just very much aware that drawings are not people, and because of that can't hold them to the standards they hold people. |
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Ali07
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I thought that when it is an older woman that is young looking (or "under-developed"), it was petanko? I've always been under the impression that lolis are young girls. |
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Paulo27
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animefan1238
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Hentai can be a little over exaggerated since some of it is good stuff. My gf has to watch it first time through just for the story because most of the time there is an actual story. LoL. Some artists for hentai are absolutly talented. And yes, the anatomy can be so out of reality that it's hilarious. I'm almost 30 and I played the first GTA for PC, Metal Gear Solid, GTA 3 and so on as a kid but I knew the difference of real life and a digitized world. The unfortunate thing is that there is that percentage that get so absorbed into those games/lolicon that they can tell the differance. For me H-lolicon is on a fine line between being harmless and not. I don't read/watch it but it is uncomfortable to read that they are half joking and half serious about the age. |
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Foxaika
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Even within a niche there are preferences. That's not all too surprising, I would think.
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TsukasaElkKite
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8 or 9 is way too young.
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Rederoin
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Welcome to a free world. |
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Actar
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Unfortunately, it seems that are many who cannot separate emotion and perceived morality from logic when dealing with controversial issues - be it lolicon, violent video games, abortion, gay marriage or gun control.
Wow. Arresting people for not doing anything wrong nor harmful because of personal prejudice? Now, where have I heard that one before... |
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Shenl742
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Please don't lump us in with this. |
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Parse Error
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Okay, so doing something in a fictional context that would be very wrong in the real world is a completely different thing from doing something else in a fictional context that would also be very wrong in the real world? The key difference is that you don't mind one of them personally, but that doesn't make for a reasonable argument about anything but your own preferences.
I have no idea where you live, but everywhere in the developed world that I have been, know people in, or have read news articles from, there's been an inescapable moral panic regarding pedophilia, statutory rape, and various related topics for quite some time now. This notion that it's somehow different because people are made aware that violence is wrong but are never told that having sex with children is not okay is just plain silly.
That's a mighty bold assertion to make without being able to provide any evidence whatsoever to support it. I could just easily claim there have been cases where eating ketchup on a hotdog has triggered someone to become a serial killer. |
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Go Mifune
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The worst part about Arale Kurashiki's arguments is that even though they stated more than once they were not a psychologist, they have shown a complete lack of knowledge of what pedophilia is or any relatively easy information about it.
1) Pedophilia is psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Which means it isn't a choice and it isn't synonymous with molestation. 2) Psychologists have no idea what causes it, but most of them believe it is associated with some sort of childhood trauma. To make claims that consuming certain media leads one to have primarily or exclusive sexual desire for prepubescent children is, quite frankly, asinine. 3) To make the claim that "it is so much higher in Japan" is also indicative of not doing basic Google searches. The data just isn't there. The data is there on the countries with the highest rates of child prostitution. Japan isn't on the list. The U.S. is though. -- Now, because how these things always are. I have never seen any Lolicon and don't care to (nor hentai for that matter), nor am I all that fond of moe generally speaking, on top of that, fanservice mostly bugs the hell out of me a large majority of the time. (I know some are asking if I even watch anime after those comments, so here are my top 3 female protagonists: Yona, Kino and Fam.) |
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maximilianjenus
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the one liners are fabulous, and while some people sa<y that they are fun out of context, I'd say they are even better in context; my most recent favorite was a girl perfofrming a certain sexual act on a way and saying"I am not sure if I am doing this correctly, all this pixelation gets in the way". |
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Kai99
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Lol at the "free world" comments. Nope, this is simply an example of Japan being a-0K with children being sexualized. If Japan is so for "freedom" than why was the woman arrested for her vagina artwork? It aint hurting anyone.
In Japan you have the freedom to buy softcore child porn. In Japan, you once had the freedom to have real child porn and it wasn't until recently they made it illegal( with pressure from those darn western countries). In some countries, you have the freedom to marry a child. See the problem with the whole "freedom" argument. If it goes along with what is okay as far as morals go, it is allowed. How Americans view Gun Ownership is different from how places like Japan and much of Europe( much of the world) view it. Western society does not view child sexualization in a positive light, and things like lolicon is banned in some places and there have been people arrested for it here in the US. You wont see a magazine targeted at Lolicons made here in the US because they know the kind of shit storm that company will have if they do that. You also wont see real softcore child porn being sold in the US like it is in Japan. Japanese consumers have that freedom. But they don't have the freedom of gun ownership like here in the US. That woman would not be arrested here for that vagina artwork in the US. Who is more free? |
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CatSword
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...You could just say maybe she's a young nine? Making him redraw the whole thing seems like a waste of artwork.
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