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Kadmos1



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:27 pm Reply with quote
If they did re-dubbed this, I would think that getting Southern accents would make sense since that's how they often do with this dialect.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:55 pm Reply with quote
Since I spend most of my time in Osaka opposed to Tokyo, I always get a kick out of how folks in Kansai love to make fun of people from the kanto region. Incidentally, I love when people in Tokyo comment about the Osaka accents, especially when you can clearly hear their own accent from Sendai, Sapporo, Akita, Fukuoka.

Spend enough time in Japan, and you'll notice an accent/dailect almost anywhere you go. To date, I still don't know where all the kansai dialect mocking originates from.Kanto seems to be more varied in this department than most other places in Japan, so I find it funny they did a Japanese redub with kansai dialect.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:21 pm Reply with quote
Im sure this is hilarious to those who understand it Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:04 pm Reply with quote
I think it's about time we stopped using the term "Kansai-ben". Different parts of Kansai region have different accents. I wish Japan was as progressive as America.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:52 am Reply with quote
yaki-udon wrote:
I think it's about time we stopped using the term "Kansai-ben". Different parts of Kansai region have different accents. I wish Japan was as progressive as America.


Perhaps it would be more sensible to instead think of it as a series of related accent rather than one single distinct one.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:02 am Reply with quote
This feature will have lots of "ya" in it.

Not as funny as the "desu" inspirational poster they did for Suiseiseki some years back.

I love hearing characters speak with either the Osaka or Kansai dialect. It adds quite a bit of personality to the character. But I'm curious to know how much different is it from urban parts of Japan that you need a dub.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:37 am Reply with quote
So I guess this is roughly equivalent to that old American English dub of Mad Max?

Or maybe that short-lived semi-Americanized NBC dub of the British animated series Stressed Eric?

Or how there are 2 different North American English versions of Rock and Rule, Canadian and American?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:10 am Reply with quote
Ahaha, this was great. I dropped Attack on Titan, but I'd watch this version...

AJ (LordNikon) wrote:
Since I spend most of my time in Osaka opposed to Tokyo, I always get a kick out of how folks in Kansai love to make fun of people from the kanto region. Incidentally, I love when people in Tokyo comment about the Osaka accents, especially when you can clearly hear their own accent from Sendai, Sapporo, Akita, Fukuoka.

One of the Trigun drama tracks riffed on this, where everyone minus Wolfwood suddenly spoke with an Osaka dialect and made fun of Wolfwood for his newfound standard Japanese.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:28 am Reply with quote
Foxaika wrote:
yaki-udon wrote:
I think it's about time we stopped using the term "Kansai-ben". Different parts of Kansai region have different accents. I wish Japan was as progressive as America.


Perhaps it would be more sensible to instead think of it as a series of related accent rather than one single distinct one.
This. "Kansai-ben" is basically just the colloquial word for what Japanese linguists call "Kinki-hougen" (yeah yeah, go ahead and snicker), one of the major dialect groups within Western Japanese. Dialects that are part of it are spoken in most of the Kansai region, except for parts of the northern coast and a weird language island in southern Nara and Mie (the dark grey areas on the map). But then, many people outside the region say "Kansai-ben" when they mean specifically "Osaka-ben", which is sort of like saying "the New England accent" when you mean "the Boston accent".

Tenchi wrote:
So I guess this is roughly equivalent to that old American English dub of Mad Max?

Or maybe that short-lived semi-Americanized NBC dub of the British animated series Stressed Eric?

Or how there are 2 different North American English versions of Rock and Rule, Canadian and American?
More like this, except for a whole episode and not just a couple of scenes. Kansai isn't an independent country, so it doesn't get its own official dubs; this is just an extended joke based on stereotypes and the dialect's apparent hilarity to people from Tokyo (and there are also people from Kansai in the comments laughing at how fake it sounds). And no, Chrno2, they don't really need a dub, since everyone in Japan understands standard Japanese, and aside from its pitch accent the Kansai dialect isn't that different from the standard compared to some of the other dialects out there (also, Kansai is one of the most urban parts of Japan).
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:57 am Reply with quote
If you have seen the actual trailer, you will realize that the casts are pronouncing the Kansai dialect words using standard Japanese. It doesn't sound as good as it should be. They should have hired some actual Kansai dialect speakers instead of making the old cast speaking in a dialect that they are not familiar with.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:10 pm Reply with quote
Nande yanen?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:20 pm Reply with quote
vonPeterhof wrote:
Foxaika wrote:


Perhaps it would be more sensible to instead think of it as a series of related accent rather than one single distinct one.
This. "Kansai-ben" is basically just the colloquial word for what Japanese linguists call "Kinki-hougen" (yeah yeah, go ahead and snicker), one of the major dialect groups within Western Japanese. Dialects that are part of it are spoken in most of the Kansai region, except for parts of the northern coast and a weird language island in southern Nara and Mie (the dark grey areas on the map). But then, many people outside the region say "Kansai-ben" when they mean specifically "Osaka-ben", which is sort of like saying "the New England accent" when you mean "the Boston accent".

Tenchi wrote:
So I guess this is roughly equivalent to that old American English dub of Mad Max?

Or maybe that short-lived semi-Americanized NBC dub of the British animated series Stressed Eric?

Or how there are 2 different North American English versions of Rock and Rule, Canadian and American?
More like this, except for a whole episode and not just a couple of scenes. Kansai isn't an independent country, so it doesn't get its own official dubs; this is just an extended joke based on stereotypes and the dialect's apparent hilarity to people from Tokyo (and there are also people from Kansai in the comments laughing at how fake it sounds). And no, Chrno2, they don't really need a dub, since everyone in Japan understands standard Japanese, and aside from its pitch accent the Kansai dialect isn't that different from the standard compared to some of the other dialects out there (also, Kansai is one of the most urban parts of Japan).


Ah I see. Well that is interesting to know.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:38 am Reply with quote
For those that understand Japanese, what makes the Kansai dialect stand out? Also, just how accurate is using Southern or Texan accents when dubbing it?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:29 pm Reply with quote
yaki-udon wrote:
[...] I wish Japan was as progressive as America.

Oh, dear me; I don't think that that you've been paying much attention to the political campaigns during the current political cycle here in the U.S.
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