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SSJ Gohan 64



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:09 pm Reply with quote
So, with that Naruto marathon on YTV, that means the Canadians are ahead of us in the airings by four episodes. Since episode 100 doesn't air here until Sunday at 9:30.
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jel123



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:55 pm Reply with quote
SSJ Gohan 64 wrote:
So, with that Naruto marathon on YTV, that means the Canadians are ahead of us in the airings by four episodes. Since episode 100 doesn't air here until Sunday at 9:30.

You're right! We should do something about the "Naruto Gap". I call for sanctions!!! Wink

I'm still not over the fact that AZN is being removed from my cable lineup at the end of the month (thanks comcast)-; But they are presenting two animes this week in both dub and subtitled;
Kakurenbo: Hide and Seek (English Dubbed) Thursday, August 16, 2007 | 7:00 PM EST (R 8/17 12:00 AM)
Kakurenbo: Hide and Seek (English Subtitles) Thursday, August 16, 2007 | 7:30 PM EST (R 8/17 12:30 AM)
Negadon: Monster from Mars (English Dubbed) Thursday, August 16, 2007 | 8:00 PM EST (R 8/17 1:00 AM)
Negadon: Monster from Mars (English Subtitles) Thursday, August 16, 2007 | 8:30 PM EST (R 8/17 1:30 AM)

They also have a bunch of making-of, trailers, and interviews (from the DVD?) for both on their website through the media player section.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:08 pm Reply with quote
Looking at the line up in your article, as well as our own TV listings, and it's blazingly clear that for some unknown reason, the television corporations still make the mistake of anime=cartoon=kids' stuff. Admittedly, there are some notable exceptions like Lain, Texnolyze, etc,in the listings (and what a surprise to see a classic like Ayakashi there), but for the most part it's still the usual shounen hack-and-slash mindless fun. (Watch the Naruto fanboys take exception to that ;ast comment). At least you have more variety - our programming execs can't seem to move beyond rotating Pokemon, Dragonball and Yu Gi Oh... probably the 3 best examples of why the saying, "All anime is good" is a complete lie.

One wonders if they will ever cotton on to the fact that there is as much anime geared towards older viewers (and trust me, I fall very much into the 'older' category) as there is for youngsters and actually show something like Gunslinger Girl, Now & Then, or even somehing slightly different (and alas, still unlicensed) like YKK, Hataraki Man, Shinigami no Ballad). The list is endless, i guess, and dependent on personal taste.

I think that as long as they continue to believe in the erroneous equation mentioned above, anime will continue to remain a sub-culture... which might not be a bad thing... but that's a topic for another day.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:42 pm Reply with quote
He missed mentioning airings of Akira, Mirage of Blaze, Gokusen, and Samurai Deeper Kyo. With the listings from AZN he didn't mention, I wonder if there's anything else he didn't mention . . . .
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:57 pm Reply with quote
I was so excited all day to see Naruto tonight, but then I turned it on and saw the crappy OVA... Sad At least Bleach and Blood+ are still here this week.

And we only get one new episode after that airing of the previous 99? That's weak...

But then again, these episodes are fillers? I thought the fillers didn't start until after episode 135 or something. So there's another section of fillers before then? Exactly what episodes numbers are those?
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Treetastic



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:20 pm Reply with quote
psygremlin wrote:
I think that as long as they continue to believe in the erroneous equation mentioned above, anime will continue to remain a sub-culture... which might not be a bad thing... but that's a topic for another day.


Oh, no no no. That isn't the erroneous equation TV corporations use. This is the erroneous equation TV corporations use.

Let A represent anime, S represent shonen, C represent children, M be cliche American animation demographic, R be ratings (represented by Smile).

' , ' C= 75%(M)
[Parents]= 25%(M)
C>P= SmileR>SadR
P + (coherence + adult x programming)= SmileR
C + (c + a(p)) = SadR


C + (violence) = Very HappyR
P(C +V)= MadR + M(0)
C+S(CA)= SmileR + P:rS

' , ' When SA =P(p),
R=:S
, ' , When SA>P(p),
R= Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy
Q. E. D.

They have real mathematicians do this stuff, you know.

SSJ Gohan 64 wrote:
So, with that Naruto marathon on YTV, that means the Canadians are ahead of us in the airings by four episodes. Since episode 100 doesn't air here until Sunday at 9:30.


Careful. You never know when Twisted EvilThe CanadiansTwisted Evil might be listening in on us. Don't want Them to know that They are winning- it might give Them ideas. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:06 pm Reply with quote
Mmmmm, yet another week in which simply skipping shows on channels not carried by Comcast (be glad you even had AZN to lose) requires less than 2 minutes to get through The Click.

.... Blame Canada
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:11 am Reply with quote
Amethyst Alchemist wrote:
He missed mentioning airings of Akira, Mirage of Blaze, Gokusen, and Samurai Deeper Kyo. With the listings from AZN he didn't mention, I wonder if there's anything else he didn't mention . . . .


You're right! I forgot to mention the surprise premiere of Sailor Moon Sailor Stars on NBC this Friday! Or the special marathon of Berserk this Tuesday on Bravo! Or HBO's presentation of Urotsukidoji, with an introduction by Pauline Kael!

A LESS SNARKY RESPONSE: I'm sorry if The Click isn't 100 percent perfect every week; I do try, really. But sometimes, time slips out of my grasp and certain things get forgotten about. But really, you pretty much nailed everything I forgot this week up there. And those shows have aired maybe fifteen times in the past month alone?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:30 am Reply with quote
[quote=treetastic]Careful. You never know when The Canadians might be listening in on us. Don't want Them to know that They are winning- it might give Them ideas. [/quote]
Well, someone's listened to Weird Al, I see. Yep, time for the preemptive strike! Someone's gotta find out why G4 thinks the Canadians are so special they get the good version of their network, which still carries Anime Unleased. Meanwhile, we get Code Monkeys. NOT a fair trade.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:48 pm Reply with quote
rocklobster wrote:
[quote=treetastic]Careful. You never know when The Canadians might be listening in on us. Don't want Them to know that They are winning- it might give Them ideas.

Well, someone's listened to Weird Al, I see. Yep, time for the preemptive strike! Someone's gotta find out why G4 thinks the Canadians are so special they get the good version of their network, which still carries Anime Unleased. Meanwhile, we get Code Monkeys. NOT a fair trade.[/quote]

Well we DO have Code Monkeys in Canada and remember Anime Current recently premiered in G4 Canada so its not like its been this good all the time Wink Besides Anime Unleashed was on G4 USA a long time before so .... you guys already had your fun Laughing

Jokes aside honestly G4"TechTV" Canada has nothing good to watch other than their anime shows ...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:38 pm Reply with quote
psygremlin wrote:
One wonders if they will ever cotton on to the fact that there is as much anime geared towards older viewers (and trust me, I fall very much into the 'older' category) as there is for youngsters and actually show something like Gunslinger Girl, Now & Then, or even somehing slightly different (and alas, still unlicensed) like YKK, Hataraki Man, Shinigami no Ballad). The list is endless, i guess, and dependent on personal taste.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Gunslinger Girl did air on IFC I think it was. Not exactly a major cable channel, but still some of these shows are at least being given a chance. Something like that is probably going to have to start small with a network that is willing to take some risks. If it proves successful, then the bigger networks will take notice. For example, Sci Fi channel has started airing Noein, which I have not seen all of, but it certainly doesn't seem like the typical shounen fare. Cartoon Network has aired Paranoia Agent, albeit in a late time slot, but it's not a show oriented towards the youngster crowd.

I'm not sure where you are -- it sounds like outside of the US from your comments -- but it seems that in the last several years a lot of good anime has been finding its way on to TV here in the States at least. If people continue to watch these shows, we'll probably keep seeing more and eventually on networks a little bit more accessible than IFC or AZN.
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mistress_reebi



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:58 pm Reply with quote
rocklobster wrote:
[quote=treetastic]Careful. You never know when The Canadians might be listening in on us. Don't want Them to know that They are winning- it might give Them ideas.

Well, someone's listened to Weird Al, I see. Yep, time for the preemptive strike! Someone's gotta find out why G4 thinks the Canadians are so special they get the good version of their network, which still carries Anime Unleased. Meanwhile, we get Code Monkeys. NOT a fair trade.[/quote][/quote]

If it makes you feel any better it's a speciality channel in which most people don't get, including me. I might have skipped the YTV section but I haven't seen any on the list this week. YTV has released their anime schedule on Friday nights here
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:22 am Reply with quote
You're not going to see any other anime this week on YTV this week then Naruto, because of the Marathon. Then YTV will broadcast a movie in Bionix, therefore, pretty much eliminating the anime premieres.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:29 am Reply with quote
psygremlin wrote:
Looking at the line up in your article, as well as our own TV listings, and it's blazingly clear that for some unknown reason, the television corporations still make the mistake of anime=cartoon=kids' stuff. Admittedly, there are some notable exceptions like Lain, Texnolyze, etc,in the listings (and what a surprise to see a classic like Ayakashi there), but for the most part it's still the usual shounen hack-and-slash mindless fun. (Watch the Naruto fanboys take exception to that ;ast comment). At least you have more variety - our programming execs can't seem to move beyond rotating Pokemon, Dragonball and Yu Gi Oh...


The reason why that television in America/Canada is like that is because they want to make a profit. It's called commercial television for a reason. If Canada or the US implemented public service broadcasting in all broadcasting systems (similar to what Britain did to broadcast television and radio before Thatcher wrecked it with "light-touch" regulation), things would change a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Jkid wrote:
psygremlin wrote:
Looking at the line up in your article, as well as our own TV listings, and it's blazingly clear that for some unknown reason, the television corporations still make the mistake of anime=cartoon=kids' stuff. Admittedly, there are some notable exceptions like Lain, Texnolyze, etc,in the listings (and what a surprise to see a classic like Ayakashi there), but for the most part it's still the usual shounen hack-and-slash mindless fun. (Watch the Naruto fanboys take exception to that ;ast comment). At least you have more variety - our programming execs can't seem to move beyond rotating Pokemon, Dragonball and Yu Gi Oh...


The reason why that television in America/Canada is like that is because they want to make a profit. It's called commercial television for a reason. If Canada or the US implemented public service broadcasting in all broadcasting systems (similar to what Britain did to broadcast television and radio before Thatcher wrecked it with "light-touch" regulation), things would change a bit.


YTV has a viewer discretion disclaimer on before the show starts and after each commerical break stating that the show is 'intended for an older youth audience'. There are tonnes of those on the airwaves here in Canada.

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You're not going to see any other anime this week on YTV this week then Naruto, because of the Marathon. Then YTV will broadcast a movie in Bionix, therefore, pretty much eliminating the anime premieres.


I think after midnight they might show repeats of Fullmetal Alchemist, Gundam Seed Destiny and Bleach.
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