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NEWS: Fire Emblem Fates Adds Same-Sex Marriage Option


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Cephalo the Pod



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:48 pm Reply with quote
Oh. Cool. Now I'm just hoping it's presented as normal, that the women/men involved don't freak out over themselves being gay. ("We can't like each other! We're women/men!")
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*NormalGamer*



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:09 pm Reply with quote
Shippoyasha wrote:
I don't agree with people saying that Nintendo was ever bigoted or using their past games as an example. It is more that relationships were never that big a focus in previous Nintendo games and this Fire Emblem is meant to push the envelope in that department and it is a logical step forward. You could already pair two of same genders in previous FE games too. Just not beng called marriage. Marriage also had implication of childbirth too.

Ditto for Tomodachi Life which had very rudimentary marriage features and they didn't need to be called out as some bigots for it. I like the more even headed people who asked nicely.

But I disagree with this notion that Nintendo was ever actually against sexualities. I think we can celebrate the features of this game instead of unfairly bashing others. I am seriously worried about this idea that anything not strictly progressive is "bigoted". It doesn't work that way in games because so many games don't even flesh out hetero relationships in games. There is an issue of money and time to develop games. Not to mention game makers should have the freedom to make any kind of relationship types they want in a creative angle.

I am happy for this news. But I think people should not be so quick to condemn Nintendo so unfairly.


Agreed. Nintendo is just taking their time making baby steps; little by little.

Also, the possibility of same-sex marriage may finally be possible with the next Tomodachi Collection installment sometime in the future after this announcement.
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CoreSignal



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:29 am Reply with quote
Shippoyasha wrote:
I think we can celebrate the features of this game instead of unfairly bashing others. I am seriously worried about this idea that anything not strictly progressive is "bigoted". It doesn't work that way in games because so many games don't even flesh out hetero relationships in games. There is an issue of money and time to develop games. Not to mention game makers should have the freedom to make any kind of relationship types they want in a creative angle.

I am happy for this news. But I think people should not be so quick to condemn Nintendo so unfairly.

I kinda agree. I feel like we should let the developers make the game they want to make. If the devs put progressive themes or features in the game, that's cool. If not, I don't think it's a big deal. Let the creators do their own thing. Especially in Nintendo's case, Nintendo is like the last gaming company that would go out of their to exclude others.
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Lili-Hime



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:28 am Reply with quote
Cephalo the Pod wrote:
Oh. Cool. Now I'm just hoping it's presented as normal, that the women/men involved don't freak out over themselves being gay. ("We can't like each other! We're women/men!")


But it wouldn't be yuri without the obligatory "but we're both girls!"

Yay for Nintendo! They're learning from the tomogatchi life incident. Nothing wrong with a family company like Nintendo adding this. Some families include two moms or two dads you know Very Happy Kids may as well get used to it, depending on the area in which they live it's not at all uncommon anymore for them to meet other kids at school that have same sex parents.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:15 am Reply with quote
Getting with the times
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_Cyphon_



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:56 am Reply with quote
Cephalo the Pod wrote:
Oh. Cool. Now I'm just hoping it's presented as normal, that the women/men involved don't freak out over themselves being gay. ("We can't like each other! We're women/men!")

Hm, well if it's a romance simulator-ish thing this is always the first barrier. Having your target accept the kind of love you're offering.
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Natt319



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:46 pm Reply with quote
Now let me say that I am extremely serious and I know that I don't need to marry a male character if I have a male avatar... but why even have such a warped option like that? I mean I've played Awakening and I loved the idea of marriage and kids but this is just one step too far. this isn't really "child-friendly" think of the children who's minds are still learning what's right and wrong... If they constantly have this crap shoved in their faces they're gonna grow up thinking it's okay! I mean REALLY?! I should start a petition to take that out. they should make a special game for the people that want that. I don't want to see that! and they should have the normal edition of the game be, i don't know, NORMAL!
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TrailOfDead



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:55 pm Reply with quote
but it is okay though, and normal. maybe the problem is you
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:16 pm Reply with quote
CoreSignal wrote:
Especially in Nintendo's case, Nintendo is like the last gaming company that would go out of their to exclude others.


Not like they haven't done it before though Cool
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Wtv



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:28 pm Reply with quote
Cephalo the Pod wrote:
Oh. Cool. Now I'm just hoping it's presented as normal, that the women/men involved don't freak out over themselves being gay. ("We can't like each other! We're women/men!")


I read the translation of the confession scenes.
spoiler[It's not treated as "normal", at all. Both characters are pretty nervous when they confess because they're from the same gender.
The girl even use the classic: "you must think it's gross, right?"]


It's cute, though.
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Lili-Hime



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:44 pm Reply with quote
Natt319 wrote:
think of the children who's minds are still learning what's right and wrong... If they constantly have this crap shoved in their faces they're gonna grow up thinking it's okay!


IKR? It would be terrible if those kids grow up to be tolerant, accepting adults. Or even worse! If they're gay or bi they might just grow up not hating themselves for who they are. Wouldn't want that would we?

It's just like same sex relationships in the Sims dude, if you're not down with it just don't pick that option.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:13 pm Reply with quote
@Natt319 - As a mod, you've already seen my response. But posting as a person with opinions, it's hard to taken anything you've said here seriously.

Think of the children? I think it's sad children have to grow up around such hate and bigotry.

Anyways, if your only responses in this thread are only going to be more of the same, don't bother. Any further posts like the one above are just going to be deleted. And that goes for everyone else in this thread.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:46 am Reply with quote
willag wrote:
Any further posts like the one above are just going to be deleted. And that goes for everyone else in this thread.

And 2 more posters want to push this and not listen to willag's warning. So their posts are now gone. I'm not sure how much clearer willag could have been folks. If you post an OT post and keep this crap going your posts WILL be deleted. If you insult another user, troll/bait them, or make a bigoted and rude comment you WILL be put on moderation at this point. 3 warnings from 2 moderators coupled with PM warnings sent to multiple users is simply enough. Follow the rules. Thank you.
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_Cyphon_



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:42 am Reply with quote
Hm, I suppose I should save myself some trouble by un-watching this then.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:40 pm Reply with quote
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I think that you would be saving us all some trouble if you did just that.

And thank you very much.
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