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ValkyrieZeroZeroOne
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 Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:41 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
| ValkyrieZeroZeroOne wrote: | | To sell over 25,000 in its opening week isn't too shabby at all. Hopefully this will encourage Voyager Entertainment and Bandai Visual to produce more in the 2199 universe. |
Why would it? The OVA/movie disc releases all sold like 30k+ in Japan and that didn't do shit for their decisions on the NA release. |
You're comparing apples to oranges. I'm talking about Japanese sales of the movie contributing to a decision to produce more Yamato for the Japanese market, you're talking about the influence of sales in Japan in releasing the existing show in an international market. While nothing has been said by the company about the decision behind suspending the US release, it's most likely due to poor sales of the first four volumes due to the woeful job Voyager Entertainment did in marketing the show in North America.
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Desslok
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:16 pm
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| ValkyrieZeroZeroOne wrote: | | due to the woeful job Voyager Entertainment did in marketing the show in North America. |
Well, poor marketing,high price point, bizarre attempt to localize a 35 year old property on pure nostalgia, and terrible distribution.
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ValkyrieZeroZeroOne
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:30 pm
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| Desslok wrote: |
| ValkyrieZeroZeroOne wrote: | | due to the woeful job Voyager Entertainment did in marketing the show in North America. |
Well, poor marketing,high price point, bizarre attempt to localize a 35 year old property on pure nostalgia, and terrible distribution. |
My apologies, "marketing" was a poor choice of words to generalise everything you mentioned. Their US release failed in all those aspects, and more.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:32 pm
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If you're talking about Yamato as an entire property, it's over 40 years old now since it's not like they were marketing 2199 back in 2010. That said, it's not like you can't market 2199 as its own distinct show, just like with Casshern Sins or Gatchaman Crowds being completely distinct from their super old originators, even if both did have 90s OVAs. There's really no excuse beyond just not trying. But to the original point of those number just mattering for Japan, of course. I saw Voyager and thought the American market, but what reason would there be for not making more 2199? It's good and enough people want to buy it, and it's not a case of Macross Frontier where that's a mega smash hit but all Kawamori wants is the series and the two films before moving onto the next story.
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Panon
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:54 pm
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As much as I'd like to be happy about the Yamato 2199 movie doing well, having received my own copy I wish it had been a good movie and it unfortunately is not. 
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ValkyrieZeroZeroOne
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Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:55 pm
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| Panon wrote: | As much as I'd like to be happy about the Yamato 2199 movie doing well, having received my own copy I wish it had been a good movie and it unfortunately is not. |
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but it's the first time I've heard of anyone not liking it.
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Hameyadea
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:03 am
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Shirobako is still going strong, I see 
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ValkyrieZeroZeroOne
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 4:17 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | If you're talking about Yamato as an entire property, it's over 40 years old now since it's not like they were marketing 2199 back in 2010. That said, it's not like you can't market 2199 as its own distinct show, just like with Casshern Sins or Gatchaman Crowds being completely distinct from their super old originators, even if both did have 90s OVAs. There's really no excuse beyond just not trying. But to the original point of those number just mattering for Japan, of course. I saw Voyager and thought the American market, but what reason would there be for not making more 2199? It's good and enough people want to buy it, and it's not a case of Macross Frontier where that's a mega smash hit but all Kawamori wants is the series and the two films before moving onto the next story. |
I believe you're right, that that's generally where they went wrong. Voyager made the incorrect assumption that people who grew up watching the original Star Blazers saga would be as dedicated as the Japanese Yamato fans of the same era, thinking they're the ones with disposable income. Their undoing was underestimating how few of those were dedicated fans (and not realising many of the hardcore fans were importing the show from Japan directly already). Had they taken the time to do it right and target today's anime viewer rather than focus too much on the nostalgic value, they might have done a lot better. Still, closing their American office years ago and/or not getting a local distributor to handle it (although they probably set their price too high for any licensor to pick it up) were their worst decisions.
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jree78
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Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:32 pm
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| Mr. Oshawott wrote: | I'm ecstatic that Space Battleship Yamato is faring greatly at nearly 18,000 copies!  Hopefully there will be more from this show.
| Madoka...AYUKAWA! wrote: | | ...the likes like kancolle, shirobako need to disappear. |
Why would you want them to disappear? If anything, most of the starring cast in Shirobako are nearing adulthood. |
The ladies in Shirobako are in their early 20s they drink beer.
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