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ikillchicken
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What Anime do you consider to be classics? Why? More specifically, by what definition do you decide wether an Anime is a classic?
For me, I would say something has to be a ittle bit old before it can be really considered classic. Then it has to be pretty well recognized as being excellent. |
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Key
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An Ask John column earlier this week over at AnimeNation had some interesting things to say about that.
Will post my own thoughts later in the day, when I have more time. |
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Gundam Junkie
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When an Anime just clicks with you.
It doesn't matter what genre or how silly the story may be, but when it has characters you just can't help to care about and a story that's well-told then I think its a classic. Cardcaptor Sakura is one example. I know its a Shojo (and I'm not a girl) but there's something about it that I just can't help falling in love with. 
Well that's my embarrising confession for the day 
Other examples: Escaflowne Gundam SEED Outlaw Star |
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abunai
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Please dont take this the wrong way, but I don't think you really have a firm grasp on what the word "classic" means. You're describing anime that have an immediate and positive effect on yourself -- but "classics" are more than that. A classic is a work that will be remembered by most of a generation, long after its time. That takes more than just an immediate liking. It requires qualities that are enduring and original. - abunai Last edited by abunai on Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:43 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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darksideoftheanime
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I think the best example of an anime classic are any movies directed by Hayao Miyazaki (Nausicaa, Mononoke, and Spirited Away). These three especially show like anime can more than mindless, fanservice filled cartoons; anime can be an art form.
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jetz
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quoted for truth 
That may be true, since his movies (even the older ones) are loved by anime fans of all ages. His works will definitely be remembered and recognized. |
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DKL
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I was under the impression that something was classic as long as a lot of people say it is and keep saying it long after the release...
That said, I just whip the word around like it's nobody's business... mainly because it's entertaining. |
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abunai
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Well, yes -- but it seems to me as if the horizon for your "long after the release" is a year or two, whereas I would say that you can't really consider anything a classic until at least a decade or two have passed. Reasonably speaking, of course, some anime are so pervasive and well-established in our time that it is highly unlikely that they will fade away. So, yes, I suppose it is possible to speak of "contemporary classics" in the sense of "unlikely-to-not-become-a-classic". But I think it slightly cheapens the word. - abunai |
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DKL
Posts: 1962 Location: California, USA |
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Actually, I did mean a decade or two...
But then, I should've used the phrase "a LONG time" But then, the tendency is to to find something new and then move on. I know I do it. |
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Son of Shinchan
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Highest Quality Content plus Timelessness (and maybe Influence on the medium).
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roujin
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Works that stand the test of time. That's what I believe constitutes a classic. I'm not sure as to how many of the anime shows we watch will be considered classics later on since I believe overall quality is slipping and anime in general is heading in a direction that I don't like.
I think classic standard can be more easily applied to anime feature films like the Miyazaki films and other Ghibli films plus the works of Satoshi Kon as mentioned in the Ask John article linked in a post above. |
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epixeltwin
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--What abunai said
For example Pokémon is a classic because everyone of us that watched it when they were young will always remember it. My favorite classic is the Mysterious Cities of Gold Any Gundam is a classic because Gundam is just a classic franchise Miyazaki titles are well-established classics, they are still going strong even though some are 20 years old and over. NGE is now the classic Mecha show, everyone's watched it, everyone knows about it, it spawned others similar to it (even though it is itself based on other earlier mecha series) Akira, the classic teen angst, disturbing, deep, urban-chaos cyberpunk show I'd say most old shows that are still remembered are classics, like abunai said, but I would also risky saying that most new quality shows that are in many people's top 10 lists are going to become classics... like FLCL, Last Exile, and Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya for example. Also, popular titles that everybody know about, but are not exactly high-quality or that have nothing special, will probably become classics. That's mostly shounen anime, eh. For example Full Metal Panic, Fullmetal Alchemist, Bleach, Naruto, and so on. That's how, like I said before, Pokémon or DBZ became classics even though they don't necessarily have high ratings. just my two cents 
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darksideoftheanime
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Anime form the 60's (Gigantor, Astro Boy, and Speed Racer) – They started the whole anime movement that would only continue to grow.
Iaso Takahata titles – Not only is he up there with Miyazki, he also directed one of the greatest animes of all time, Grave of the Fireflies. Sailor Moon – Other then DBZ and Pokemon, Sailor Moon also brought a whole generation into anime (including me). And if FLCL is going to be a classic, there is no reason why Excel Saga shouldn’t be a classic to. |
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Meiaminkbell
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I don't know about that. ALthough I love Excel Saga as much if not more than FLCL, I think the popularity of FLCL would remain it a classic. I don't think people will forget about ES for a long time, I just think that a majority of anime fans enjoy FLCL more than ES, and people are generally more likely to say "FLCL? Oh yeah, that was crazy funny" compared to "Excel Saga? that was a weird show."
I'm generalizing of course, but this is the usual reaction I get when people discuss either or both of the shows in question. Although the humor is very similar, they're still considered in two different genre's. |
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Shinjí90
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i think most people will agree on Akira, Mononoke, Spirited away are classics :cD
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