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ANNCast - Right On DeMarco

Greed1914 wrote:

Very interesting to hear that the current block's length is what Jason DeMarco was trying for, and that it was actually the higher ups that wanted all those late-night reruns. It isn't quite as concerning to know that the decline in the ratings and eventual shortening of the block was something that was expected to happen sooner or later.

Yeah it was interesting to hear but I'm not sure that I can really buy it even if he says it, the way it went down on such short notice with virtually no warning lead time added to the panic from many us. I dunno, I guess it's possible, but it also reads like saving face.

Mr.Shonen wrote:

But what's preventing DeMarco from picking run of the mill action series from Viz/Funi? I'm not taking about the popular flavors of the month or the nostalgia Toonami series. I'm talking about those 13-50 episode series from 2000-2010s. Why not go after series like Accel World, Air Gear, Baccano, Buso Renkin, Birdy, Darker than Black,Full Metal Panic, GunXSword, Jormungand, KenIchi, Nura, Panty & Stocking, etc... Shorter shows that can be switch out after one run that keep the Toonami somewhat fresh because they haven't aired on TV before.

When they did Samurai 7 (I thought they might do Last Exile too), I thought that was a clue they might grab some of the big action shows from those missed years to fill in the schedule along with the brand new shows because they might be cheaper to get and would still draw a Toonami audience really well like Birdy, DTB, FMP, Gun X Sword, etc.

Though I guess they kind of were, since Gurren Lagann is currently in it's first Toonami run.

Perhaps the price difference between newer and older isn't as dramatic as expected?

Speaking of the new shows he said might be coming, I'm still curious if since Black Lagoon did well they'll do Jormungand, which I think would be great. Same for Psycho-Pass which would do well with the GITS audience.

At the same time I'm kind of upset they missed their chance to capitalize on the fame of other series which made those series end up being put on somewhere else and now they probably don't have as much appeal as they would have before; but they did air Blue Exorcist and finally picked up Final Act so maybe there is still hope, slim as it may be, of them getting Tiger and Bunny.

So Jason...what's your explanation about Young Justice doing good but CN cancelling it?

Lelouch Vi wrote:

So Jason...what's your explanation about Young Justice doing good but CN cancelling it?

Did it do well... with its target audience I mean?

No he didn't say that, he said if people are watching the show then it wouldn't be cancelled but that's not true, the ratings for YJ were as high as the crap they run like Adventure Time, despite how bad they treated it and how little they promoted it. Did it do good with it's target audience? I guess it did considering how high the ratings were. But let's just say it didn't hypothetically, let's say they cancelled it because not enough kids were watching and because of the real fact that there was no toy line, at the end of the day, it's the parents who's money is being spent on the toys and there's also the fact that both Turner Broadcasting and DC comics are essentially owned by Time Warner, meaning any revenue generating by both are going to the same place, so yeah

No he didn't say that, he said if people are watching the show then it wouldn't be cancelled but that's not true, the ratings for YJ were as high as the crap they run like Adventure Time, despite how bad they treated it and how little they promoted it. Did it do good with it's target audience? I guess it did considering how high the ratings were.

I'm not sure why there's so much desire for "Made in the USA" animation on Toonami as if having several Korean animated, Bruce Timm inspired, DC superhero shows would somehow bring in more diversity to the lineup. Toonami airs action animation TV series and Japan just produces it in far greater quantity.

Same reason why Invader Zim,

CN execs have said they're targeting the younger demographic who are into silly shows like Adventure Time, Teen Titans Go, and Stephen Universe. Not teens or comic nerds who want shows with storylines or action.

Lelouch Vi wrote:

No he didn't say that, he said if people are watching the show then it wouldn't be cancelled but that's not true, the ratings for YJ were as high as the crap they run like Adventure Time, despite how bad they treated it and how little they promoted it. Did it do good with it's target audience? I guess it did considering how high the ratings were.

Young Justice did horrible with it's target audience of little boys. Same reason why Invader Zim, Tower Prep, and many other shows are cancelled despite not having overall terrible ratings. Same reason why Korra went to online and Beware the Batman got a terrible 3 AM deadslot to burn off all the remaining episodes. The problem is people who aren't the target demographic watching a show doesn't mean anything to it. You can have 5 million adults watching a kids show but if kids aren't watching it then the network isn't getting their money or selling their toys so it gets cancelled. CN execs have said they're targeting the younger demographic who are into silly shows like Adventure Time, Teen Titans Go, and Stephen Universe. Not teens or comic nerds who want shows with storylines or action.

I'm not sure why there's so much desire for "Made in the USA" animation on Toonami as if having several Korean animated, Bruce Timm inspired, DC superhero shows would somehow bring in more diversity to the lineup. Toonami airs action animation TV series and Japan just produces it in far greater quantity.

Pride more than anything else, I would guess. As it stands now, the only action animation being made is from Japan. Just like how Saturday morning cartoons ended up becoming mostly anime back in the early 2000s looking at Fox's line up. Some people kind of take it personally as a national pride sort of thing.