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enurtsol
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:28 pm
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sunflower wrote: | Did anyone watch the JoJo dub on CR? It's really good! Most of the voices are spot on. I usually don't watch dubs (since I see the subs first) but this is excellent. Does anyone know who did it? |
I agree, the dub for episode 1 was pretty damn good. Don't know who the VAs are. As I said in the discussion thread, though, it is going to be weird not hearing Joseph Joestar's seiyuu yelling, "OH NOOOOO!!!" |
Instead, should say it in Japanese!
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Thatguy3331 wrote: | As someone born from New Orleans and recently went back to visit, I must say that the only accurate image they had of it, was when the flames engulfed the streets and blew the cars away. |
As someone who was ALSO born and raised in New Orleans, my reaction is... WHAT!? An anime featured NEW ORLEANS!? Must go and find... |
They probably saw it on TV underwater.
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meiam
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:56 pm
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Things that I found genuinely original in Aldnoah: New Orleans, why New orleans I have no idea, the main character didn't get into a mech battle in the first episode, that one really surprised me (how long till he find himself in one of the weird special mech they showed at the end? I'm betting 3 more episode, gonna say that the terrain that was on the alien ship will help him get it).
Pretty much everything else scream gundam rip off. There's a princess, cause obviously zeon would have a princess, and she's trying to bring peace between the two nation, obviously (wasn't that just in gundam unicorn?).
Next we'll found out that the princess isn't really dead, that some shadow group composed of both martian and earthling carried out the bombing attack and that the old alien race is gonna come back so that both earth and mars must resolve there difference to face the common enemy. You know, I wonder if someone made a bingo card of cliche for mech show, probably should look for one.
I will admit there's pretty good production value behind it, because studio apparently would rather throw large amount of money at remaking the same show every few year rather than throwing small amount of money at something original.
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iatheia
Joined: 20 Jun 2009
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:08 pm
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gloverrandal wrote: |
Rivailoli wrote: | Oh please, the whole point of drawing their girls ridiculously cute is to appeal to people.
Fanservice is not new to KyoAni. FMP and Haruhi both had fanservice, K-On!, Tamako and Chu-2 pander in a different sort of way. They were never 'better', they just pandered to a different demographic. |
Those aren't really anywhere close to being the same. You can't really equate simply having a cute design, which is pretty much universal in most media because nobody wants to watch ugly people, with thrusting your hyper detailed crotch into the camera and posing with your shorts half pulled down. I agree that Free! is very different from KyoAni's usual style. I can see why it's so jarring to some people. There's no way you can put stuff like K-On, Tamako, and Chuuni in the same boat. Free is definitely KyoAni's most pandering show by a mile. |
Please. KyoAni pretty much created cute girls doing cute things genre in with Lucky Star, and everyone else followed their lead. And then they cemented it with K-On. These shows are pretty much the definition of modern version of moe waifu and what it means to pander to otaku.
They know what exactly they are doing and unlike many they know how to do it well. It's not surprising that Free! is nothing more than just another series that is a great hit for the targeted demographics.
What does surprise me is that even a year later we still hear whines from the guys that "Free is ruining anime!! How dare you to objectify men while we objectify women!!111! *prayers to haruhi and madoka etc*". That was pathetic even when the first season was just announced and all the fanboys felt hurt in their behind that their favorite studio "betrayed" them.
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DerekTheRed
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:39 pm
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Carl Kimlinger wrote: | Aldnoah.Zero is the first series, probably since Crest of the Stars, to try its hand at the sci-fi war epic and get it so beautifully, exhilaratingly right. |
The first sentence of Carl's preview is all I need. I will be following Aldnoah.Zero now.
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shamisen the great
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:51 pm
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Kougeru wrote: |
when so much of the feminist argument in recent days is "women are BETTER than men"...just like the racist arguments where they wanted "Equality" but then a lot of the vocal people actually wanted to be placed higher, not equal. |
That seems a bit reductive. I don't know what feminists you're hanging around, but I haven't seen a widespread "women are better that men" sentiment. Then again maybe I'm just feeding a troll here.
(I will agree that the music wasn't that good, though.)
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AnimenexuS
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:10 am
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More people hate on SAO More I want see more of SAO eps get made. I hope milk heck out of SAO
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jymmy
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:16 am
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Princess_Irene wrote: | EDIT:
Ah, I see, you found the abstract of my MA thesis! I didn't write the abstract, which explains the spelling error. |
Ah, that explains it, then. Silly university staff.
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sunflower
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:18 am
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Carl's review of Shounen Hollywood is epic, and I couldn't agree more.
What a painful show to watch, and I usually love even the worst mindless reverse harem and otome stuff. But this was so bad that I felt terrible for CARTOON CHARACTERS for completely humiliating themselves by being in this show. Yes, I cannot watch this because I cringed for the cartoon boys. Unbelievable.
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Doodleboy
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:18 am
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meiam wrote: | Things that I found genuinely original in Aldnoah: New Orleans, why New orleans I have no idea, the main character didn't get into a mech battle in the first episode, that one really surprised me (how long till he find himself in one of the weird special mech they showed at the end? I'm betting 3 more episode, gonna say that the terrain that was on the alien ship will help him get it).
Pretty much everything else scream gundam rip off. There's a princess, cause obviously zeon would have a princess, and she's trying to bring peace between the two nation, obviously (wasn't that just in gundam unicorn?).
Next we'll found out that the princess isn't really dead, that some shadow group composed of both martian and earthling carried out the bombing attack and that the old alien race is gonna come back so that both earth and mars must resolve there difference to face the common enemy. You know, I wonder if someone made a bingo card of cliche for mech show, probably should look for one.
I will admit there's pretty good production value behind it, because studio apparently would rather throw large amount of money at remaking the same show every few year rather than throwing small amount of money at something original. |
If I were to speculate where this is going, it's Gundam without the newtypes, without a psychic genius protagonist, without the prototype supersuit capable of winning battles by itself. No masked rival. No Lapalace box like macguffin that can decide the fate of the war. No evil empire, but an actual government and nation that won't topple over easily.
It's Gundam where the characters have as much agency as the average soldier would in a real war, IE. very very little. It's not about saving the day, or finding a quick and easy way to bring back peace. They can't do that, just like the average solider in World War I couldn't do that, all they can do is try to survive and shoot the enemy.
In other words our teenage heroes are boned, place your bets on which one is going to die first.
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Rivailloli
Joined: 05 Jun 2013
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:21 am
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gloverrandal wrote: |
Rivailoli wrote: | Oh please, the whole point of drawing their girls ridiculously cute is to appeal to people.
Fanservice is not new to KyoAni. FMP and Haruhi both had fanservice, K-On!, Tamako and Chu-2 pander in a different sort of way. They were never 'better', they just pandered to a different demographic. |
Those aren't really anywhere close to being the same. You can't really equate simply having a cute design, which is pretty much universal in most media because nobody wants to watch ugly people, with thrusting your hyper detailed crotch into the camera and posing with your shorts half pulled down. I agree that Free! is very different from KyoAni's usual style. I can see why it's so jarring to some people. There's no way you can put stuff like K-On, Tamako, and Chuuni in the same boat. Free is definitely KyoAni's most pandering show by a mile. |
Pandering is pandering whether it's sexual or a ridiculously adorable high school girl acting like a literal five year old. Same shit to me, just it's aimed at different parties.
I really don't care what you think is worse, because in the end, pandering is pandering.
Now, this is a preview thread, not a bitch about Free!'s fanservice thread. We've already heard it all about Free! it's been a whole friggin' year with this stupid shit.
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Shippoyasha
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:34 am
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I don't even see what's bad about pandering either. Just worry if a show is fun/interesting or not. That should be the only thing that matters. If a show's focus is offputting to you, there's like 30 other anime in a given season to focus on.
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gloverrandal
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:40 am
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iatheia wrote: | Please. KyoAni pretty much created cute girls doing cute things genre in with Lucky Star, and everyone else followed their lead. And then they cemented it with K-On. These shows are pretty much the definition of modern version of moe waifu and what it means to pander to otaku.
They know what exactly they are doing and unlike many they know how to do it well. It's not surprising that Free! is nothing more than just another series that is a great hit for the targeted demographics. |
It sounds like you have a personal vendetta against either the company or shows with female leads. I'm not sure why you have such issue with girls acting like girls or how it relates to the sexualization that goes on in Free. What the fans do is entirely different. People make porn of everything, but up until Free KyoAni didn't do the sexualization themselves Why are you blaming the show for what fans do? They're two totally different things.
Quote: | What does surprise me is that even a year later we still hear whines from the guys that "Free is ruining anime!! How dare you to objectify men while we objectify women!!111! *prayers to haruhi and madoka etc*". That was pathetic even when the first season was just announced and all the fanboys felt hurt in their behind that their favorite studio "betrayed" them. |
What are you talking about? Nobody said this at all. What does this have to do with the discussion? Please don't resort to strawmanning people and changing the subject if you don't have any actual point to make on the topic. Are you just trolling?
Rivailoli wrote: | I really don't care what you think is worse, because in the end, pandering is pandering. |
If you can't tell the difference then it just shows you're not the best person to discuss this with.
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Guile
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:51 am
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The reviews for Sailor Moon seem odd to me. Especially Carl's overall implication that magical girl anime didn't exist before Sailor Moon and hasn't existed after. Saying that if a show that wasn't Sailor Moon tried to deal with girls fighting evil with the help of talking animal mascots it would be dismissed. There have been a lot of magical girl before and after Sailor Moon. Pretty Cure is bigger than Sailor Moon, after all and gets a new installment every year for the past ten years. I don't think those comments are very true at all.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:54 am
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sunflower wrote: | Carl's review of Shounen Hollywood is epic, and I couldn't agree more.
What a painful show to watch, and I usually love even the worst mindless reverse harem and otome stuff. But this was so bad that I felt terrible for CARTOON CHARACTERS for completely humiliating themselves by being in this show. Yes, I cannot watch this because I cringed for the cartoon boys. Unbelievable. |
I felt like that was the point, to show how degrading and insincere the whole idol business is. In any other series like this, they'd be saying those lines with enthusiasm and total belief in them, and if they couldn't quite pull it off splendidly, they'd feel sad for not making their (potential) fans happy. It kinda feels like UtaPri: The True Story.
It's hard to tell after only one episode, but I have a feeling they know what they're doing with all the cheesiness and crappy songs, and it's not what it might appear to be. Or maybe that's just wish fulfillment, and it really is as trite as it seems on the surface. We'll see - or at least I will, since I seem to be the only one interested.
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dtm42
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:00 am
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So Barakamon . . . best premier thus far? I think it is.
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