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atromoby
Posts: 20 Location: Kiwiland |
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What do you guys think about the animes that are made in US/Europe?
Examples: Avatar, WITCH and Team Galaxy. I watched some of the series and I have to say they aren't bad. 
The animations looks somehow better and the art styles are on par with some of the animes made in Japan. |
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camelot187757
 Posts: 426 Location: The Nacirema Dream (17 and counting Asuka) |
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And ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the domino effect of a brand spanking new conversation about whether Avatar [/b, ][b]WITCH, and that other thing are anime at all.
There will be fights, there will be blood, there will be casualties. |
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Iwatch2muchanime
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And there will be people like me who say WITCH, AVATAR, and TEAM GALAXY, I'll throw in TOTALLY SPIES and WINX CLUB with it and say NONE of them are anime, there AMERIME or EUROME!!!! My made up words for them, I like them.
Anyway, WITCH was pretty cool for awhile but it got boring after the first 10 episodes so I stopped watching Avatar is the best american show made, and I can't wait for the new season to come out (anybody know when that is?) Totally Spies sucked through and through, as does WINX Club and Team Galaxy, so.......I'm not find of most of these. |
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Moros
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Last edited by Moros on Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:24 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Iwatch2muchanime
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Moros, this person chose these shows because these US made shows take the general art style that anime uses and tries to make it into our lovely american homes. Any animated shows made here aren't Amerime or Eurome (my names for them), there just cartoons, just the ones that try to take that style are, examples above. Teen Titans is one too.
And I watched Lain around 8 in the morning everyday with the ability to tape it, I wasn't allowed to stay up that late and had to record it and watch it later. Like I had to do with Witch Hunter Robin and some Detective Conan |
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AegisX
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Tell that to Batman the Animated Series. Better than almost any anime I've ever seen by a long shot. On topic though, there's no such thing as Western made anime(going by the English definition of the word), just shows with an anime influenced art style. Other than Avatar and a few others, almost all of these shows tend to be crap. |
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atromoby
Posts: 20 Location: Kiwiland |
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Nah! You guys are just fanboys.
Animes ARE cartoons. They are Japanese cartoons after all. And isn't anime a part of the styles of drawing cartoons? If not, debate on some of the mangas from Tokyopop that are not the works of Asian manga artists. And excuse me "mindless cartoons"? Majority of Japanese cartoons have crappy plots either. |
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Iwatch2muchanime
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You know atromoby, you TOTALLY missed everything said here so far, we all know that is anime is cartoons, but not all cartoons are anime (which is what we're talking about).
And anime does have a specific style that we US-ians normally don't use, and when we do (which is what we're talking about) it's normally crap like WINX Club and Totally Spies, very few are good like Avatar and Teen Titans. And manga not drawn by in Japan/The Orient or whatever you want to say are comic books which Tokyopop puts out in manga form for the manga lovers out there. So it's still manga-like for the fans. And most cartoons ARE mindless pointless dribble and at least practically every anime has a plot, bad or not, which most US toons don't even have, my man. 
So I'm not sure if you missinterperated what we were talking about or was just trying to call people out on mistakes, but be sure to pay a little attention next time. 
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TheVok
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No. It just means animation produced in--and almost always for--Japan. The drawing style doesn't matter. It can be anything from Hello Kitty to Ergo Proxy. |
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TheVok
Posts: 613 Location: North York, Ontario, Canada |
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But most anime productions with even a half-decent budget have much better quality animation. 'Batman' was wonderfully stylized, but when it tried to convey realistic human movements (e.g. people milling about a party or dancing), it failed utterly. |
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ikillchicken
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I dont really its fair to say non-american cartoons are worse than Anime. Its an unfair comparison to be comparing cartoons which are intended for children with more mature Anime. Anime intended for older audiences is obviously going to have a higher buget, better quality animation, more complexity, etc. Put cartoons next to Anime for kids and see how they stack up. The only problem with american or european animation is they have yet to try and make anything in the way of animation for older audiences. Thats not even true actually. In the department of Comedy, I think american animation has done stuff just as good as Anime. Its really only the action/drama genres they haven't yet attempted.
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Iwatch2muchanime
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I dunno about that, Justice League had some pretty good animation and it wasn't necissarily just for kids, lot's of sex jokes in it, some very apparent and some of the fighting was really good. (besides that, I can't really think of anything else) The nest closest thing would be Batman Beyond, but that show was "Ehh...".
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p3rseus
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I liked Justice League / Unlimited and Batman Beyond, not sure if they're considered anime though.
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Iwatch2muchanime
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It's not.....I was saying it is one of few that have the quality of anime. |
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LeoKnight25
 Posts: 319 Location: Puyallup, WA |
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I agree about Justice League/Unlimited and Batman/Batman Beyond being a lot more heavy and a lot less kid friendly than most American cartoons. Then again, the comics that they're based on weren't always kid friendly either. The animation may not be as intricate as a Japanese animated product but, that's only because the Koreans aren't as dedicated in animating as the Japanese. But, I'd say any of the comic book turned cartoon products are as good or almost as good as anime.
Those are special cases though, since they have a wealth of back material to take from. Usually, they get fans of the comics series to write and produce those types of shows. In all honesty, I'm just as big a fan of American animation as I am of anime. As of late, we've been getting some really well written projects like the 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or the 2002 Masters of the Universe or, like the above mentioned, Justice League or Batman. Hell, Marvel's direct to DVD projects lately have been really good. Every once in a while we come up with some pretty good mature themed animated films that rival anime in scope, style and maturity. Most folks are right that America is not quite up to snuff, but I can't help but like even the more anime styled Western Animated projects. Stuff like W.I.T.C.H., Winx Club or even Avatar are still really cool. |
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