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KeithL



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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 12:42 am Reply with quote
The donut loving Iron-Blooded Hot-Blooded Cold-Blooded Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Underblade aka Kaii Killer aka Oshino Shinobu wasn't even mentioned?
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 1:38 am Reply with quote
Moka from Rosario + Vampire is his daughter as has been stated as such in both Season 1 and 2. The real question is actually about her mother. Hint: Another "Alucard" shows up.

She does belong on this list for her change in appearance. Pink hair to Silver hair.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:22 am Reply with quote
octopodpie wrote:
jr0904 wrote:
though i am more surprised that Abel Nightroad from Trinity Blood isnt on this list. not to mentioned that Moka from Rosario + Vampire didn't make the list. i would have easily have her over alucard von mosquiton.


To my knowledge, neither of those characters are related to Dracula, they're just vampires (although one novel-only character from Trinity Blood borrows his name from Vlad Dracul's brother).

Also this list was in order of "strangest" not coolest.


Well Abel isnt , but Moka and her family are if your going with the manga material.

however hazuki from tsukuyomi: moon phase is if i can recall. how is she not on this list along with moka is beyond me.

also from the listing i definitely get and see that it is indeed in the order of strangest and not coolest when you put it that way, though i would put alucard von mosquiton ridiculous instead of strange.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:30 am Reply with quote
Joe Carpenter wrote:
lol at Dracula eating a hamburger Laughing


Don't forget the wheelchair combat. XP


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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:59 am Reply with quote
"Is anyone really surprised that Japan managed to take the Dracula mythos and change out the star for a prepubescent girl?"

Mina Tepes is not alone. And Sunako Kirishiki from Shiki also has the distinction of being one of the more genuinely sympathetic vampires doing the rounds. Well, I was rooting for her anyway, and gave a small cheer when she seemed to escape at the end.

DRosencraft wrote:
Seeing as how Dracula was the original vampire and supposedly all vampires are created from him, wouldn't any vampire, even if not stated, be a descendant of Dracula?

It is my understanding that the canonical literary convention is that all vampires, by definition, are descendants of Dracula.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:46 am Reply with quote
I think that the idea that all vampires are descended from Dracula, even in a literary sense, is inaccurate.
The modern romantic type of vampire that we think of as "Dracula" can be traced back at least to The Vampyre by John William Polidori which was published in 1819, 80 years before Dracula.

My point is that you should not assume that all anime vampires would be eligible for this list. Unless there is something in the story that established a vampire as being a descendant of Dracula it is not safe to assume that it is.

That being said, if Mina and Moka actually are supposed to be descendants of Dracula then I would put them on my list.
I would want to put those two on any list of vampires simply because I really like the characters, but I think that they do qualify here.

Mina's desire to establish a vampire community that can coexist with human society makes her strange, for a vampire, to me.

Moka is strange mostly because of the concept of the Inner and Outer Mokas.
I cannot decide which I like better, Inner Moka or Outer Moka. They both have their own attractions.

EDIT: I am not saying that there is anything wrong with the list as it is. It is just that my own personal list might be different.
Since there are probably hundreds of candidates for any of these lists it should be expected that there will be differences when anybody picks just seven of them.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 5:19 pm Reply with quote
Glad to see Mosqy on the list- he's one of my fav fantasy characters.
I think horror needs some comedy to even things out. Or a lot of comedy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:24 am Reply with quote
Why is #19 a cat? Confused

And ya guys know there's a Dracula Transformer. Laughing




Greed1914 wrote:
Ulinox wrote:
Alright, I was coming in here to rant about Alucard or D not being #1, but then I saw that image of him eating a hamburger and couldn't stop lolling. Anime hyper

It is pretty funny. "I'm a vampire, so I crave blood! And that is why I am eating this fully cooked meat patty on a sesame seed bun."


How are we sure it's not bloody ultra-rare?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:23 am Reply with quote
Are Karin and her family Dracula descendants? What about the vamps of Vampire Knight?
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 11:41 am Reply with quote
No mention of Dracula in Vampire Knight. VK vampires evolved from humans during a time of climate change. (Yeah, that's a dumb origin story but that was the explanation given.)
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 5:38 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
Why is #19 a cat? Confused

And ya guys know there's a Dracula Transformer. Laughing




I didn't know that even exist Shocked, thanks for sharing enurtsol.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 6:47 pm Reply with quote
In Hellsing canon, Alucard IS Dracula. It's been a very long time since I've seen the original TV series, but I think they only vaguely hint at it toward the end. If you read the manga and/or watch the OVA, they pretty much flat out say it.

albanian wrote:
And Sunako Kirishiki from Shiki also has the distinction of being one of the more genuinely sympathetic vampires doing the rounds. Well, I was rooting for her anyway, and gave a small cheer when she seemed to escape at the end.


I just watched this series recently, and I must be a horrible person because I was pissed that she escaped. Not that I didn't sympathize with her character, but still wanted her spoiler[to die with all the other vampires] for some reason.

I felt more sympathy for Megumi for whatever reason.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 9:05 pm Reply with quote
octopodpie wrote:
To my knowledge, neither of those characters are related to Dracula, they're just vampires (although one novel-only character from Trinity Blood borrows his name from Vlad Dracul's brother).

Abel definitely isn't related. spoiler[He is a genetically engineered human infected with alien nanotech].
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2014 10:32 pm Reply with quote
DRosencraft wrote:
Conversely by the Van Hellsing legends vampires can't successfully procreate, so Dracula shouldn't have any descendants. [/spoiler]


Vampires can't procreate the way humans do, but they can by blood. Descendants of a vampire have a strength based upon their forefather's age and strength, so traits are passed down in some sort of genetics-like way. In addition, Dracula was a human before he was a vampire, and sexually active from an early age. He could have all manner of human descendants.
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 2:24 am Reply with quote
BloodGod wrote:

albanian wrote:
And Sunako Kirishiki from Shiki also has the distinction of being one of the more genuinely sympathetic vampires doing the rounds. Well, I was rooting for her anyway, and gave a small cheer when she seemed to escape at the end.


I just watched this series recently, and I must be a horrible person because I was pissed that she escaped. Not that I didn't sympathize with her character, but still wanted her spoiler[to die with all the other vampires] for some reason.

I felt more sympathy for Megumi for whatever reason.

Shiki tends to be a very divisive series. I was personally very pro-human (Razz). I thought Sunako was awful because spoiler[it was under her leadership and direction that they started turning a whole town of innocent humans into vampires in the first place.] Some of the people who were turned later on were sympathetic, but not Sunako, imho.
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