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Student no.0
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Curious to see where this could this could go. Personally, as long as this helps close the doors even more more on piracy (even though I doubt they'll be completely shut in today's conditions), but in turn opens the doors to more legal options to reading manga and other entertainment mediums around the net, I'll be happy. Especially noting Crunchyroll Manga, Comic Walker (though I hope this picks up the pace soon), comiXology, kindle, several publisher's apps (though I hope they expand availability), iTunes bookstore, etc.
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ajr
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I could see this going wrong pretty quickly, but at the same time it makes a fair amount of sense. Most mangaka don't have time to deal with that stuff on a regular basis.
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revolutionotaku
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How will overseas otaku enjoy themselves now?
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Hoppy800
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I would pay a monthly fee if stuff I want was available online legally (raw or translated) with no IP locks and those kind of shenanigans. I'd be in heaven if legal service existed that hosted a whole motherload of manga from Manga Time Kirara (if not all of them and this is assuming the publisher themselves don't jump on the opportunity and solve my problems) and if it's a Japanese only service, be region free.
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Polycell
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I wouldn't say that creators are necessarily more entitled to compensation for their work than acetatsujin is to enjoy it without paying; after all, if you want money for something it's incumbent on you to convince people to give it to you, not that I disagree with the "support the industry" stance.
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enurtsol
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Print publications are in trouble everywhere.
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EyeOfPain
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Actually, I would say the creators are more entitled to compensation. After all, they are the ones putting a significant amount of effort into creating a work that they hope people will enjoy. Stealing stuff on the Internet doesn't come anywhere close to that much work. |
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plzDontGimmeDownsplz
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"free" =/= paying no money
Whether you pay money to read manga or not, time is something one must absolutely spend. I'd rather watch a 30 second downer car commercial to read manga than walk 30 minutes to the nearest bookstore for a tankōbon of a manga that they might not even be selling. It's not even like all the manga I want to read is English scanlated. Some series I'm following are quite behind in scanlations compared to the most recently released in Japan (tens of weekly and monthly chapters behind). You don't owe the world money; money isn't irreplacable. |
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mdo7
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oh boy, more draconian copyright law from Japan, this is somewhat maybe getting out of control.
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Nemui_Nezumi
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hmm.... personally I'm not that worried because I don't read online or if it does happen it's extremely rare
so yeah, even if free online readers would start to disappear I would seriously don't care at all, if you want something buy it and support the author as I always say .x (and if it's not translated in your language or any you may possibly know, start studying japanese) PD: for the person mentioning not wanting to go to a bookstore to buy manga because it may not have the volumes he wanted did you know you can buy online? that excuse is pretty cheap in my opinion, even more given that a lot of shops have really cheap or free shipping -and really fast when it's in the same country- and tend to have better prices than fisical bookstores |
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Daemonblue
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Here's another question, how would this law work in regards to doujins? Also, would it make it so publishers could take down uploads the authors themselves put up? I don't see any links to how the bill is worded so it's just speculation, but if it's not worded properly it can give publishers far more power than they should have.
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mangamuscle
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I would like to point out that similar declines in the past ten years have been suffered by ALL printed publications (even those that nobody scans), so this law will NOT increase sales no matter ho sucessful it is. Yes, people have gotten used to free (whether it is legal or not is beyond the point), even if magically all manga online disapears then people will simply read what they can for free AND sales will dip even further, since most buyers first sample a series online and then buy it, if people can no longer sample they will stop buying. It is like they are making the same mistakes video games companies made 30 years ago, implementing draconian copy protections that in the end only cut into their profits. The faster manga publishers embrace online and makes their wares available (as have anime publishers) the faster they will start seeing some profit again. I say some because cheap video games and DVD/BD will not go away, kids nowadays can buy a lot more entertainment with their allowance. |
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mdo7
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Yep and I like to add that the tax hikes in Japan is not going to help anything sell like look at what happen to PS4 sales after Japan's tax hikes. So this bill plus the tax hikes is going to make it harder for manga to sell in their homeland. As much as I want to see Japan embracing using the internet to help manga sale, sadly Japan is slow to adapt new technology when other Asian countries have done that. I mean Japan sort of fall behind on the free wi-fi hotspot (Just this year Osaka just launched their free wi-fi hotspot service for their city) when other Asian countries did this already 2 years ago. It's no wonder why Japan's ICT/IT development ranking drop for the last 3 years. Again you're correct on what you said, Japan has too many draconian copyright law/anti-piracy laws and slow to adapt new technology when other Asian countries already adapt to it quicker. |
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Alexander55
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This would be ideal.......if the Japanese supplied a legal digital alternative with a repository of manga that is ad supplied with a monthly subscription both digitally and in print. Of course, most of the manga publishers in Japan are too slow to catch on to global trends and they haven't fully jumped on the digital trend yet. I'm surprised Kodansha even bothered adding manga on Crunchyroll, especially with their strict history of remaining print only, and strict copyright, even with fanart, which explains why there aren't many doujins of their properties(except Attack on Titan).
And before you get me, they "tried", no they didn't. JManga was an utter failure and they never bothered adjusted the model to compete with the manga warehouse sites. I know they offer their manga "free" and are obviously making money off something that is not there's but if the Manga publishers let the situation as it is, more of a reason why these websites will remain afloat and stable for many years to come. Crunchyroll, its anime streaming counterpart, had it tough but they grown so much, attracted the attention of investors and now get more traffic than all the other illegitimate streaming sites combined! Only a few manage to compete and only because of Crunchyroll's regional licensing restrictions but they nonetheless made it so far and are successful at what they do. I want to see a Manga counterpart of Crunchy try to emulate the same success. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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CR reflects what people want: expedience, cheap/free, and only ONE subscription for everything. Manga's probably too disjointed to have a one-stop shop, and no one is going to want to subscribe to five different publications to get their manga.
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