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Panzer Vor
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An assault rifle is by definition capable of automatic fire. If it's semiautomatic only, then it's not an assault rifle. Also, way to toss a red herring and draw a false equivalence at the same time. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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Natural sexual life : gay sex/ lesbian sex heterosexual sex Unnatural : having sex with childs having sex with animals having sex with a corpse Not having sex at all (barring anatomical problems) and fetishing about having sex with children |
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shamisen the great
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#809957
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How about banning Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes cartoons for promoting animal cruelty? How many cases of actual animal abuse can be attributed to those?
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Cptn_Taylor
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Let me think. Uhm how about none ? 
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Mohawk52
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This is intriguing seeing as Russia is the CP production capital of the world. |
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Touma
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In fairness to Cptn_Taylor I think that he was saying that fantasizing about having sex with children instead of having sex is unnatural. I don't think that he was saying that just not having sex is unnatural. But I could be wrong. Personally, I am very curious about what standards he used to differentiate natural and unnatural. |
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Hawkwing
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Wow, did you just compare a fantasy/asexuality with sex with children/corpses/animals? How about leading a healthy sexlife, lusting only after girls above the age of consent, while keeping those immoral fantasies to oneself? In the end, fantasies are still only fantaises. Believe it or not, but the majority of people have some kind of fucked up fantasy. The fantasy itself doesn't have to be sexually related and can be anything from sexual attraction towards lolis or the desire to kill someone. Both are naturally fucked up if they choose to act upon it, but if you keep it as a fantasy; then it's all okay. Watching a Hollywood movie and get thrilled by the violent action scenes, would be equal to getting horny from watching a fictional image of a child in a sexual position. Here's an example: I don't deny that I'm sexually attracted to lolis, but that does not mean I'll go out and kidnap a child and rape it. I also have a fetish for femdom and brutal ballbusting, but that fetish alone does not mean I'll let a woman kick my balls. 
Do you see where I'm going with this? |
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Cptn_Taylor
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What I meant to say is that having sex is a natural part of our lives. Unless you're a Saint and devote your life to God I find it very difficult to believe that a person would actively refuse to have sex for his entire life. This doesn't mean you have to have sex every day, but one that actively shys away from human contact for his entire life is in my view a man/woman with a big big big problem.
We can look to animal behaviour for instance as a starting point, but it's obvious that we humans are not just animals. We have a conscience, a soul and our laws (wether our society is based on a judeo christian tradition or a muslim tradition), our laws are based on what we perceive in part to be morally right or wrong. And yes what we perceive to be right or wrong changes more or less with time (once upon a time slavery was the law of the land, nations and empires were build on slave and slave labour, yet today no society allows slavery). Having sex with children is a terrible thing to say the least. And while not on the same level, producing literature that stimulates the fantasy of the reader to imagine having sex with a child is also bad. And therefore I have no problem saying I'm against the production of lolicon and shotacon manga/anime. Last edited by Cptn_Taylor on Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:40 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DTJB
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Kinda missed the point I was trying to make. This case and many others are examples taking people to court for viewing fictional drawings of sexual acts involving children. What's crazy about it all is people are being convicted for viewing artwork involving paper and lines; no actual living breathing minors were involved and it's just porno anyway. The reason I bring up homicide is because it's an equally horrible crime to commit and yet it's everywhere in the media. Some really great works of fiction contain elements of murder and regardless of this, many examples are celebrated by fans and critics. If a person who watches a horror film or a murder mystery were judged the same way a person is judged for viewing some lolicon material, then everybody who's encountered a murder in fiction would be convicted of a homicide. You mentioned thought crime in your response and I see what you're getting at, but I doubt everybody who's ever seen a murder in fiction wants to kill someone, just like I doubt everyone who's ever seen a porno wants to sexually assault someone. Consider EVERYONE who's ever seen works like The Godfather, Scarface, The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, Sweeney Todd, Hamlet, etc. etc. etc. I doubt EVERYBODY who's seen those have ever made plans to kill someone or even considered it at all and there would be A LOT of people to convict if they were judged just by watching the examples I mentioned. |
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Rederoin
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No laws are, or should be, based on what is harmful. Not on what people think is wrong or right. By the way, sex with childeren(<18 years old) is natural. Doesn't mean it should be allowed though. Asexuality is also just as normal as bi/homosexuality is. |
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Polycell
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Yorl
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Because no priest would ever molest children...
Pretty much this entire paragraph contradicts your main point, do you know what you are arguing anymore?
Because no sexually normal person has ever looked at a 17 year old girl and thought daaaaaayyymn! Keep in mind we are talking about 14+ girls here, an age at which they can be legally married in many countries (including parts of the US) and religous doctrines. Not to mention these are fictional characters without a real age. |
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#809957
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Do you now see the pattern? |
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kanechin
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unnatural because you and the majority who want things that way say it is. Gotta love closed doors, those who do the "unnatural" deed certainly do. Me, I don't care, eff whatever you want but don't try to force me to do as you say. |
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