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Deacon Blues
Joined: 09 Mar 2005
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Location: Albuquerque, NM
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 Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:50 pm
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Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:52 pm
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| rederoin wrote: | |
But those poor, poor 14-18~ year old fictional anime girls, I'm glad that Russia is finally taking action against those who are trying to hurt them. Russia is once again showing that they are the bastion of Freedom and progress. |
And they're probably gay too!
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Rederoin
Joined: 29 May 2013
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Location: Europa
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:58 pm
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
Your point?
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But those poor, poor 14-18~ year old fictional anime girls, I'm glad that Russia is finally taking action against those who are trying to hurt them. Russia is once again showing that they are the bastion of Freedom and progress. |
And they're probably gay too! |
So he was uploading Sakura Trick or Sasameki koto?
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OdessaJones
Joined: 30 Oct 2012
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Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:04 pm
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
I wonder if the children being exploited in photographs would agree.
Porn may be in the eye of the beholder, but there's a big difference from posing a kid in a photo and drawing a tasteless but imaginary fantasy on paper.
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mdo7
Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Katy, Texas, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:05 pm
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| rederoin wrote: |
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And they're probably gay too! |
So he was uploading Sakura Trick or Sasameki koto? |
I think Enurtsol was poking fun at Russia's anti-gay law.
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Rederoin
Joined: 29 May 2013
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Location: Europa
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 pm
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| mdo7 wrote: |
| rederoin wrote: |
| enurtsol wrote: | |
And they're probably gay too! |
So he was uploading Sakura Trick or Sasameki koto? |
I think Enurtsol was poking fun at Russia's anti-gay law. |
I was just going along with it.
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ATastySub
Past ANN Contributor
Joined: 19 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:45 pm
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| mdo7 wrote: | Oh boy, here we go 
This isn't going to help Russia while they send troops to the Crimean region of Ukraine and turn it into a international crisis. |
Precisely, this case, on top of Russia's recent military movements, is very likely spark off a major incident. |
Sorry, but even comparing this case to Russia invading another country is insane. If you honestly feel that on some level this case will cause someone to take action against the Russian government then your sense of reality is extremely messed up. There are many serious issues with Russia right now. Being anti-loli is not one of them.
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revolutionotaku
Joined: 19 May 2011
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:48 pm
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| Quote: | | The defendant, a male Volgograd resident, was accused of uploading six volumes of anime onto a social networking site and making them available for download from December 5, 2010 to July 22, 2013. |
If he lived in Japan, he would've been arrested only for copyright.
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Alunimus
Joined: 08 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:54 pm
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| Quote: | | This isn't going to help Russia while they send troops to the Crimean region of Ukraine and turn it into a international crisis. |
At the very least Russia came for help to the Russian people. Whatever some "rival" countries say, it was right decision. Most of citizens of Cremea are more than happy to see Russian troops there. Many people were quite concerned after all that revolutionary stuff in Ukraine and ridiculous actions of new government.
| Quote: | | Russia's anti-gay law |
Ha-ha, this thing's always cracks me up! Prohibition of LGBT propaganda =| anti-gay law. I have some gay friends living in Russia and they're fine. This law only prohibits such ridiculous things as gay-parades.
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mdo7
Joined: 23 May 2007
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Location: Katy, Texas, USA
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:07 pm
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| Alunimus wrote: |
| Quote: | | This isn't going to help Russia while they send troops to the Crimean region of Ukraine and turn it into a international crisis. |
At the very least Russia came for help to the Russian people. Whatever some "rival" countries say, it was right decision. Most of citizens of Cremea are more than happy to see Russian troops there. Many people were quite concerned after all that revolutionary stuff in Ukraine and ridiculous actions of new government.
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Invading another country is not the answer to help the Russian people in Ukraine, that would be like UK invading the US because couple of British expats faced discrimination by American people.
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#809957
Joined: 03 Mar 2014
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:07 pm
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
Right... Since when has "child porn" been the problem, instead of the actual molestation of children? This is just another case of idiocy where the original reason for condeming something has been almost entirely forgotten and been replaced with ridiculous overgrown taboo that has no base in reality. Creating the photographed kind of child pornography almost always involves molestation of actual living children, whereas drawing pictures of deformed characters that someone with severely limited sense of reality could equate to children, do not. Therefore, even if it technically could be called "child porn", original reasons for condemning it do not apply. Why is this so damn difficult to understand?
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DTJB
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
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Location: Dubuque, IA
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:22 pm
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Knock it off Putin.
| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
Does that mean a homicide is still a homicide if comes in the form of a book, a TV series, or a movie?
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VanGosroth
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:28 pm
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
It's quite easy to get around something that's 100% false. If you're having a hard time differentiating reality from fiction I would suggest finding a competent mental health care professional to help work those issues out.
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BGMaxie
Joined: 28 Nov 2009
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:28 pm
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Not sure what to think of this. Specially given that Russia has several WORSE issues to address than this one in particular.
Also which manga were involved in this shit?
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Chagen46
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:31 pm
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Child porn is still child porn whether it is real or animated. There is no getting around that. |
I know everyone has already mentioned this, but there's QUITE the gulf between:
>pictures drawn that harm no one and detail a fantasy
>exploitation of young children that scars them for lives and is used to make a profit that fuels more horrific exploitation
Truly, the fact that you even think the two are equitable is honestly somewhat disturbing.
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