Forum - View topic

Answerman - Poop on a Platter

They knew it was a hit in Japan, so why not bring it over here? I think they overlooked exactly what it was they were getting their hands on.

They did seem to do random editing though. They would airbrush ENGLISH writing off of signs and buildings and censor anything resembling a cross, religious or not (this included medical crosses, Mihawk's sword, and Nami's weapon). (...) Both edits are directly contrary to Pokemon where they DID leave in crosses (they even used the word).

PurpleWarrior13 wrote:

They knew it was a hit in Japan, so why not bring it over here? I think they overlooked exactly what it was they were getting their hands on.

Nah, I think they knew exactly what they were getting their hands on. I think they just thought "since this show is such a huge, gigantic, monumental hit in Japan, even if we spend all this cash in getting rid of every drop of blood in it, we will probably get our money back". And the rest is history.

Quote:

They did seem to do random editing though. They would airbrush ENGLISH writing off of signs and buildings and censor anything resembling a cross, religious or not (this included medical crosses, Mihawk's sword, and Nami's weapon). (...) Both edits are directly contrary to Pokemon where they DID leave in crosses (they even used the word).

But are not contrary to Yu-Gi-Oh!, Shaman King, or any of their other properties. Pokémon was their odd child, edit-wise, probably for being their first.

SahgoDN wrote:

But are not contrary to Yu-Gi-Oh!, Shaman King, or any of their other properties. Pokémon was their odd child, edit-wise, probably for being their first.

Actually outside of Pokemon, Shaman King was probably the least edited out of all their dubs and a surprising amount of mythology/religious references were left mostly in tact.

4Kids: Why are boobs, guns, violence, and cuss words a stigma on American TV and kids' shows? Why? I don't understand it! Who the hell decided those things had to be taboo? We live in the real world, and in the real world, those things exist. They cannot be erased. Kids can learn to handle these things if you'd let them.

And fudge the FCC! They're an unconstitutional body that violates the First Amendment! They have no right to crack down on such content and they never will. People watched Bugs Bunny cartoons with guns, alcohol, and tobacco in them and it was funny. What happened to us as a society that we could tolerate such things on TV then but not now? What went wrong?

Swedish kids' shows have the "worst" swears unbleeped and nobody bats an eye. Why can't we be like Sweden in that regard?

The fact of the matter is, they were trying to fit a square peg in a round hole: One Piece is a show with boozin', fairly substantial violence, boob jokes, guns, and themes that would be considered adult-oriented in America.

But then a very high-profile Hollywood adaptation of a very famous manga series came out, and was just such a giant turd that everyone with a grain of artistic integrity in them thought, "oh GOD, I don't care how much you pay me, I can't let that happen to my baby!"

And since anime and manga as a whole aren't quite in the spotlight as much as they once were, Hollywood isn't doing quite so many remake deals.

Does anyone know if there's a canonical list of Japanese-released Blu-rays that *do* have subtitles?

SahgoDN wrote:

I hear a lot around the internet this "Toei yanked One Piece out of 4Kids hands because of what they were doing to their baby" claim. I really, really need to see proof of that, because it makes no sense! Toei has a history of liking money, and doing anything to get their hands on their money (only natural, since they're this huge entertainment giant that they've always been for decades). I doubt they'd care if 4Kids renamed everyone in the show Mary and Bob, as long as that was profitable. Both parties probably gave up on that because it wasn't being profitable for either. Stop romanticizing Toei, people!

Indeed, you have to wonder where this supposed sense of outrage was when DBZ and Sailor Moon were being heavily edited on the way to massive TV exposure that created many fans of those shows and anime in general.