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ktchmeifucan
 Posts: 8 Location: Argentina |
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Hi , i'm from Argentina , the manga explotion began 5 or 6 years a go , maybe 7 , and the anime explosion came before that , in my country. (i love anime and manga , i don't like comics)
My question is , having all that comics to read , why the americans see on a manga something that they don't see in a comic? only curiosity. here more people read comic , because is cheaper , and have "full collored pages" , i see the real art on the draw , not in the collor or computer effect, (manga talking) Cya!! |
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DragonsRevenge
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Wrong forum.
Manga essesentially are comics. Both read the same, only manga is a novel-length comic and is about 80 times more expensive. There really isnt any difference in narrative devices between the two. |
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ktchmeifucan
Posts: 8 Location: Argentina |
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i was trying to establish a line manga-comic , and yes is 80 times more expensive than a comic , but is not essentially the same ,
quote: There really isnt any difference in narrative devices between the two. x-men , and sailor moon , same narrative? superman and evangelion , same narrative? i'm talking about the "americanism" of the comics , isn't the same... i'm getting in a dark site but there are some things that you can´t compare between manga and comics , if you read boths , explain to me. Cya |
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Jkid
 Posts: 197 Location: Capitol Heights ,MD |
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There are differences in comics and manga in the way they are first published. Manga are usually serialized in magazines, some of them like Shonen Jump are of a size of a small phone book. These same chapters are then converted into Takubans, the novel style books you and I and most Americans read manga from. Comics work the same way, but in America they publish them as single chapters, each one containing 5-12 pages.
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ktchmeifucan
Posts: 8 Location: Argentina |
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tnkz , i didn't know the "real" frecuency of the comic , here we are not avaiable to "see" the process.i knew the frecuency in japan but not in US. Cya |
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mistress_reebi
Posts: 735 Location: Canada |
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Manga isn't just popular in the US, it's also popular in Europe. Manga has more popular genres then American comics, for example the mainstream comics from the US are Spiderman and Batman, which are the same genre. Archie is very popular too, but US comics are more appealing to men. There aren't a lot of girl US comics, and the ones published are hard to find and not nearly as popular as the Japanese Shôjo titles, such as Fruits Baskets and Fushigi Yûgi. Like Jkid said, Comics in North America are published in books that resemble magazines or a strip in a newspaper, which isn't that much to read. Manga comes in a novel format , which gives more to read. Another thing is the artwork in manga is more appealing. I don't really like the style most US comic artwork comes in because it's either too cartoony or men with huge muscles.
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Marikallees
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>why the americans see on a manga something that they don't see in a comic?
Personally, I like the art better in manga than US comics. There's more variety between artists that I can see, and the styles appeal to me more. I don't read US comics much, but they all seem to be superhero types or little kid stories where my tastes favor the more mature shoujo storylines. |
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ktchmeifucan
Posts: 8 Location: Argentina |
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i agree with the idea of huge muscle man for comics. Not in all comics , but the few i read , it's true.
Tnkz for the apport Cya |
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Brand
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I'm really getting confused here.
American comics are mostly published in a magazine format monthly with 32 pages of actual content (plus pages for adds), generally at a retail price of $2.99. Then they are taken and made into trade paper backs or graphic novels (the term is fairly interchangeable) these are made up of about 6 each and cost around $19.99 each (though the price for the trades very more then the single issues). Manga in the US, for the most part, is published in the trade form and costs about $9.99 each. So I'm confused how manga is so much more expensive then American comics when it's really not. I think a big part with manga becoming a popular form of comic in the U.S. is because it covers a wider verity of topics then American comics. American comics for the most part are still Super Hero based. Then the next genres following that in popularity would most likely be crime and horror (most zombie based horror), but both of those are dwarfed by Super Hero comics. (This is from my observations from working in a comic book store for over a year now). Plus manga has a lot more female oriented titles were American comics are aimed for male teens to early 20's range for the most part. Plus another big part, for growing the manga interest, was the smart move to get manga into bookstores, making them readily available to people who might never stop inside a comic book store . Comics especially the single issue format isn't that available in book stores, and when it is it's mainly the Super Hero stuff from DC and Marvel. Though American trades have started doing much better the last few years, even in comic book stores trades are starting to do much better then back issues are. There are a lot of great American comic books both non-super hero and super hero. I highly recommend to anyone who likes to read comic and manga to read Fables, The Sandman, Runaways, Nextwave, Transmetropolitan, Sin City, and many others. Last edited by Brand on Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:31 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ryvius213
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I generally like manga more than American comics, since the most popular American comics are typical, long-running superhero fare. However, some comics manage to stand out. These are the less popular ones. RiB is one of my favorite titles, since it has strong characterization and development, and it's not about superheroes. V for Vendetta is a British comic, but it's more of a political drama than it is an action series. That plus some good setting and character background makes the series very enjoyable. V for Vendetta probably the most popular comic series ever made that ISN'T about a superhero. It's a shame there aren't many more original titles that can reach that level.
As for artwork, manga and American comics use different styles. However, Japanese comics have cleaner drawings. This is probably because American comics are colored in. They start out black-and-white, so coloring could mess up the details. Also, I've noticed that artwork in longer series tend to decline slowly in quality. That's the downside of having an entire group of people doing the art, rather than just one artist who can keep things consistent. |
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Kagemusha
 Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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...V is a superhero. Yes, you could argue about small details, but the character itself qualifies for the status of a superhero. Even if you did considser it to not be a "Superhero" book it isn't the most popular one ever (I'm guessing either Maus or Sandman hold that title). As for the openning: Tokyopop knows how to market really, really well. Right time, right idea, right product. Simple as that. |
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ktchmeifucan
Posts: 8 Location: Argentina |
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you're right , i saw sin city and it has an amazing stile , but , stil exeptions , and manga in the bookstores , it's alrealdy happened here , a lot of people who's not used to go to a comic store , get "petrified" watching a manga story in a bookstore. quote: "V for Vendetta is a British comic, but it's more of a political drama than it is an action series. " yes . but a lot , and a lot of manga are political in a lot of way , i can start with ghost in the shell , and the "privacy" prohibition , industrial terrorism , and i'm talking about 1991 , akira have a political message , but you also say something that's true , sometimes , in some series they get up screwed with color, but , that's in the past , with the new technical advances , that can't happen , i don't know if they're still using 8 frame. Cya |
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Maryohki
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I don't know if I'm right on this, but manga just seems more diverse. I mean, comics seem to be mostly aimed at boys, typically teens and up. I've never heard of a comic that was intended to appeal to girls. They also tend to be centered around a guy that wears a spandex costume and fights crime at night, though they're a normal person by day. Manga covers a larger amount of subject matter.
Correct me if I'm wrong on that, though. |
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Jedi General
 Posts: 2485 Location: Tucson, AZ |
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I agree with you there. Manga is definitely more diverse than comics. Plus, the storylines are normally much more mature in manga. I grew out of comics into manga because I got bored with the same stuff over and over again and also because I found that comics didn't really have the types of stories that I liked. Manga, on the other hand, does have the kinds of stories that I enjoy reading. |
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Brand
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There is some stuff that could be considered more for girls or pretty gender neutral, there was a long running Powerpuff Girls line of comics, Betty & Veronica comics, Nancy Drew, and Courtney Crumrin. There was a great comic called Akiko (which the creator was inspired by his time in Japan), the comic being about a young girl being taken away to another planet to recuse the Prince of that planet. Some gender neutral ones I can think of are Bone (another great comic), Scooby-doo, and Runaways.
But so far comics for girls hasn't been a market that the American comics industry has been tapping into. Though DC is now lunching a line of girls comics
Really even though they never mention it, I'm sure their decision was due in part to the fact that girls are over 50% the buyers of manga. And now they have come to the conclusion to try and tap that market. Also it's hard to track down what is Best Selling Graphic Novel of all time, because until more recently graphic novels have never stayed in print for so long and so the industry has never really taken good care to track these sales. V for Vendetta was in fact last years best selling graphic novel, mainly due to the movie tie in. The sales of Sin City comics went up when the Sin City movie came out and I'm sure they will go up again when Sin City 2 comes out. This year I bet though it's Frank Miller's 300 that is the best selling due in part to the movie coming out this year. And yes, I would still consider V for Vendetta a super hero comic, just not a traditional one. It's still bears a lot of the trappings of a super hero comic, a horrible accident (which may or may not caused the hero become more powerful then the average human), a secret lair, and pretty insane foes. Alan Moore's Watchmen is the same way it seems just to be a simple super hero comic on the surface and when you read it, it's so much more. I do agree with the statement that manga seems to cover a wider verity of topics they American comics do. But a lot of that goes back into the history of both countries history of comics, but that's a long story for another time. |
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