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GATSU
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:45 pm
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Hirasawa finally gets his due. If he doesn't get nominated, the Academy has no taste. That's not really a new revelation, but I'd like to believe that they'd be interested in more than bland theme songs.
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Proman
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:44 pm
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The title of the news posting is a little misleading. There is a difference between the Best Original Song and Best Original Score (Soundtrack) categoires.
Alas, being eligible for an Oscar and being actually nominated are two different things. Still, it would be very nice to see Paprika get nominated. I'd be rooting for Susumu Hirasawa and Philip Glass.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:28 am
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It's not from his Paprika OST album, but from his Ice-9 album, and I Love "Eurasia 21 Degrees Centigrade". I haven't heard such guitar rifts since the early days of "Camel". Just Brilliant. I wonder if he'll be there to collect the Oscar, or do a Miyazaki?
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Zac
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:29 am
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Anyone who sincerely thinks this has even a remote chance of being even heard by 1% of academy voters is fooling themselves.
Paprika is so far off the radar it's not even funny, and this is a category where it'll be competing with Hollywood films that actually have a marketing budget to promote the nomination.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:40 am
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Be sure to add lots of sugar when making humble pie.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:56 am
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Zac: I'd imagine the song would have a better chance than the movie to be nominated, since it's only about five minutes. That means it isn't as likely to alienate the short attention spans of the people at AMPAS as much as a 90-120 minute cartoon which isn't about talking animals.
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Zac
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:14 am
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Mohawk52 wrote: | Be sure to add lots of sugar when making humble pie. |
Are you addressing me? Because I've been following the Oscar race doggedly for the last oh, 8 years or so now and have read many books on decades past and I will bet anyone here $100 that Paprika is not nominated for Best Song or Best Score.
Those are prestige categories, Paprika has had an insanely limited release, there is absolutely NO money being spent on any kind of Oscar campaign for the film by Sony. Not going to happen. This movie is completely off the Oscar radar.
The end theme from "Van Wilder: The Rise of Taj" has a better chance of being nominated.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:31 am
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Zac:
Quote: | Because I've been following the Oscar race doggedly for the last oh, 8 years or so now and have read many books on decades past and I will bet anyone here $100 that Paprika is not nominated for Best Song or Best Score. |
I'm sure no one believed Spirited Away would be nominated for Best Animated Film, either.
Quote: | Those are prestige categories, Paprika has had an insanely limited release, there is absolutely NO money being spent on any kind of Oscar campaign for the film by Sony. Not going to happen. This movie is completely off the Oscar radar. |
Again, the same could be said about Spirited Away. Anyway, the fact that Sony pushed for two categories means that they're at least somewhat serious about it, so I'd imagine that they're going to be sending out samplers in the mail, if they haven't already. Besides, as I said before, in a year of talkin' critters flicks, Paprika has the opportunity to stand out from the herd.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:32 am
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Zac wrote: |
Mohawk52 wrote: | Be sure to add lots of sugar when making humble pie. |
Are you addressing me? Because I've been following the Oscar race doggedly for the last oh, 8 years or so now and have read many books on decades past and I will bet anyone here $100 that Paprika is not nominated for Best Song or Best Score.
Those are prestige categories, Paprika has had an insanely limited release, there is absolutely NO money being spent on any kind of Oscar campaign for the film by Sony. Not going to happen. This movie is completely off the Oscar radar.
The end theme from "Van Wilder: The Rise of Taj" has a better chance of being nominated. |
But like in the financial world, past performance is no guarrantee of future. Who makes up the list if not someone involved with the Film Academy, if it wasn't pinged on their "radar" ?
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jsevakis
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 10:09 am
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GATSU wrote: | I'm sure no one believed Spirited Away would be nominated for Best Animated Film, either. |
No, that's an entirely different story. Spirited Away got much more critical notice than this one, made more money than Titanic in Japan (which lead to a lot of headlines), and actually had a real marketing push by this time.
Complete apples and oranges. Much as I'd like Paprika to get an Oscar of any kind, I'm afraid that unless Sony Pictures Classics is going to unveil a multi-million dollar marketing campaign in the next two weeks, it doesn't have a chance in hell.
Academy members are seldom savvy moviegoers. Films that take effort to see almost always get completely shafted.
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GATSU
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:50 pm
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jsevakis:
Quote: | No, that's an entirely different story. Spirited Away got much more critical notice than this one, |
Well, yeah, the critics loved it, but since when is that enough to win an Oscar? I mean look at Brokeback Mountain, Citizen Kane, and Raging Bull.
Quote: | made more money than Titanic in Japan (which lead to a lot of headlines), |
But it did only ok, here. Most people believed Lilo and Stich or Ice Age would be the winner, let alone nominated, not Spirited Away.
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If "marketing" consists of reducing its theater count in favor of the latest Pokemon movie, in spite of it being more successful than the latter flick, then sure.
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Complete apples and oranges. Much as I'd like Paprika to get an Oscar of any kind, I'm afraid that unless Sony Pictures Classics is going to unveil a multi-million dollar marketing campaign in the next two weeks, it doesn't have a chance in hell. |
If that piece of crap, The Triplets of Belleville, got nominated, I don't see why Paprika doesn't have a chance. Hell, Spirits Within got nominated, and no one even saw it.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:13 pm
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Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within got nominated for something? It got nominated for a couple of small-time awards, but the nominees for the inaugural Best Animated Feature Oscar for 2001 were Shrek, Monsters, Inc., and Jimmy Neutron.
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within didn't even get an Annie nom.
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Deltakiral
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:26 pm
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GATSU wrote: |
If that piece of crap, The Triplets of Belleville, got nominated, I don't see why Paprika doesn't have a chance. Hell, Spirits Within got nominated, and no one even saw it. |
Final Fantasy Spirits Within didn't get nominated for anything. I think that the opening theme song for Paprika was really good I was hoping that it would be nominated because it's was quite a treat, but as I know there is no way in hell that it's going to be nominated, I am pretty sure Ebert didn't even see this film.
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