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enurtsol
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:59 pm
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publicenemy333 wrote: |
Ghibli doesnt use professional Voice actors either, they use Japanese celebrities. Japanese Otaku criticize ghibli movies Voice Acting for not using professional VAs either |
Whaddyamean about Hideaki Anno?!
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firedragon54738
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:07 pm
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Well im not surprised that they got it but I wonder who going to be the voice cast if its someone big it mite hit a lot of theaters
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MetalUpa1014
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:35 pm
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I'm just wondering if idiotic American adults will criticize this film for being about Japanese plains used during WWII. That's all Miyazaki needs, right? Being called a traitor by the right-wing Japanese, a "dramatizer" of horrific historical events by the Koreans, and here a terrorist in the U.S. Can't this guy ever get a break?
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:40 pm
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CastMember1991 wrote: | Awesome!!! For a moment I was worried that they'd be tired of distributing Miyazaki's movies.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Japan is the last country in the world to have hand-drawn animation as mainstream entertainment? |
I noticed that too. That's the main reason I'm a fan of Japanese animation as I'm a fan of traditional animation and not so crazy about CG animation. I'm glad Disney picked up The Wind Rises! Ghibli's easily my favorite studio. I think my friends'll be happy to hear this news!
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bravetailor
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:49 pm
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For some reason, I'm reminded of this:
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Galap
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:51 pm
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The Mad Manga Massacre wrote: |
CastMember1991 wrote: | Awesome!!! For a moment I was worried that they'd be tired of distributing Miyazaki's movies.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Japan is the last country in the world to have hand-drawn animation as mainstream entertainment? |
I noticed that too. That's the main reason I'm a fan of Japanese animation as I'm a fan of traditional animation and not so crazy about CG animation. I'm glad Disney picked up The Wind Rises! Ghibli's easily my favorite studio. I think my friends'll be happy to hear this news! |
I also am a huge fan of drawn animation and very much not a fan of CG, so I'm glad that Japan still produces drawn animation. The CG is encroaching, and I hope that it doesn't consume everything like it did in most other countries.
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CrownKlown
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:06 pm
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Im sorry but that is a load of rubbish. Ghibli movies are one of the rare examples of great dubs. And I hate dubs, but I have yet to come across a Ghibli dub that was bad, and half the time, I can't even tell who did, until I look at the credits. I don't like some of the voice actors as actors, but the works on Ghibli films are just fine.
What should happen is, that anime studios should use professionals, instead using a group of ten to 20 people with absolute no talent, who are willing to read a script for a couple of hours. There is a reason a lot of people prefer subs to dubs, and your so called "professional voice actors" are a big reason for it.
Also to describe some as a professional voice actor is just insane. The term professional usually denotes a profess where technical skills must be acquired, normally through education and study, or performance in terms of acting and sports. Last time I checked there are world renowned schools for acting, music, art, and theater. Never heard of any for voice acting. Last time I checked Tiffany Grant was a "professional voice actor", which obviously had all to do with her talent, and nothing to do with the fact her husband ran ADV.
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bravetailor
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:10 pm
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CrownKlown wrote: |
Also to describe some as a professional voice actor is just insane. The term professional usually denotes a profess where technical skills must be acquired, normally through education and study, or performance in terms of acting and sports. Last time I checked there are world renowned schools for acting, music, art, and theater. Never heard of any for voice acting. Last time I checked Tiffany Grant was a "professional voice actor", which obviously had all to do with her talent, and nothing to do with the fact her husband ran ADV. |
Wow. Way to throw the entire voice acting industry under the bus.
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Splitter
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:18 pm
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I smell an Oscar run.
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CastMember1991
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:36 pm
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The Mad Manga Massacre wrote: |
CastMember1991 wrote: | Awesome!!! For a moment I was worried that they'd be tired of distributing Miyazaki's movies.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Japan is the last country in the world to have hand-drawn animation as mainstream entertainment? |
I noticed that too. That's the main reason I'm a fan of Japanese animation as I'm a fan of traditional animation and not so crazy about CG animation. I'm glad Disney picked up The Wind Rises! Ghibli's easily my favorite studio. I think my friends'll be happy to hear this news! |
I like both hand-drawn and CGI, and believe both are unique in their own way. Pixar is fantastic at what they do in terms of CG, as they helped make it a very mainstream animation technique, but I still believe there's a place for traditional animation, especially at Disney Animation Studios. Even John Lasseter himself has no idea why Disney would even get rid of hand-drawn altogether like they did back in 2003.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:05 pm
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Well this should be...interesting. I still wonder how Disney plans to market this. :/
I do happen to like the Ghibli dubs with the very strong exception of Secret World of Arrietty. I saw it in Japanese first, but that's not what bothered me. I actually liked every English cast member, EXCEPT for Arrietty herself. I'm fairly certain she was voiced by the woman who plays Teddy Duncan in the sitcom Good Luck Charlie, and they had this awful tendency to fill in silences with the actress' little quips (a la old school Digimon dubs). I do sincerely hope that was a script writing fault, and not a horribly misguided attempt to shoehorn Teddy's TV persona into Arrietty.
Thankfully, I doubt the source material of The Wind Rises will lead to very many "kid-friendly" moments. Actually, is there anything in this movie for children? All the reviews I read implied otherwise.
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PurpleWarrior13
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:38 pm
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CastMember1991 wrote: | Awesome!!! For a moment I was worried that they'd be tired of distributing Miyazaki's movies.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Japan is the last country in the world to have hand-drawn animation as mainstream entertainment? |
We still do too, but mostly on TV for new stuff. Last I checked, Family Guy was hand-drawn and mainstream.
As for Disney's dubbing, they do use GOOD celebrity voice actors like Christian Bale with a couple exceptions.
I was expecting this to go to GKIDS with home video by Cinedigm like Poppy Hill. From what I've seen, this looks even less mainstream than even Poppy Hill. Maybe the Miyazaki name helped.
The Touchstone distribution is similar to Princess Mononoke's (now former) Miramax label.
With that said, it's good for a picture like this. Maybe it will play near me...
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:22 am
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Quote: | "CrownKlown"]Im sorry but that is a load of rubbish. Ghibli movies are one of the rare examples of great dubs. And I hate dubs, but I have yet to come across a Ghibli dub that was bad, and half the time, I can't even tell who did, until I look at the credits. I don't like some of the voice actors as actors, but the works on Ghibli films are just fine |
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I've been through this with you before, [insult removed]. Technically, your opinions on dubbing are invalid, but I'll just debunk your idiocy.
Quote: | What should happen is, that anime studios should use professionals, instead using a group of ten to 20 people with absolute no talent, who are willing to read a script for a couple of hours. There is a reason a lot of people prefer subs to dubs, and your so called "professional voice actors" are a big reason for it. |
By your logic, you should hate subs. Gosh, you're so [insult removed]. If you're a fan of subs and use the overusage argument when it comes to dubs, you're a [insult removed]. Also, they do hire experienced pros in most dubs. If we had things your way, the anime industry would be way worse in North America than it already is.
Quote: | Also to describe some as a professional voice actor is just insane. The term professional usually denotes a profess where technical skills must be acquired, normally through education and study, or performance in terms of acting and sports. Last time I checked there are world renowned schools for acting, music, art, and theater. Never heard of any for voice acting. Last time I checked Tiffany Grant was a "professional voice actor", which obviously had all to do with her talent, and nothing to do with the fact her husband ran ADV. |
Technically a professional is somebody who gets paid to do something, but whatever. Also [insult removed], I'm talking strictly about LA. I'n only a fan of LA VAs. Some Vancouver VAs too, but I could care less about Texas, New York, Calgary or Toronto. Also, if you're not from an English speaking country, why the fudge do you care? You rarely see English speakers whine about nitpicky bullsh*t in French dubs, do you?
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:30 am
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CastMember1991 wrote: | Awesome!!! For a moment I was worried that they'd be tired of distributing Miyazaki's movies.
By the way, has anyone noticed that Japan is the last country in the world to have hand-drawn animation as mainstream entertainment? |
Actually, there are no countries that use hand drawn animation as mainstream entertainment. Anime for the exception of Sazae-san is digital. Hell, Wikipedia says this about Turn A Gundam.
Quote: | Turn A Gundam is also the last of the Gundam metaseries (not counting the compilations and future video game cut scenes) to be hand painted on cels. Gundam SEED, created in 2002, was the first series to use digital coloring. |
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Megiddo
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:32 am
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hand drawn and hand painted are two very different things.
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