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Richard J.
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:58 pm
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Well, I suppose this is good news, but live action remakes always leave a bad taste in my mouth. I've yet to see a live version of any anime, manga, US cartoon, US Comic, game, etc., that really felt right.
Good to know that Production I.G. will be taking a chunk of the revenue though. This will probably be fairly successful even if it's terrible. (Huge name recognition, people are obsessed with vampires.)
They'll probably use the profits for more anime.
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Tony K.
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:00 pm
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Hot! Ji-hyun Jun as Saya. I love her in My Sassy Girl and Windstruck. If they ever made a U.S version of this, though, I'd pick Angelina Jolie for her big, fat, ugly lips (given that they're trying to adapt the anime movie).
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halochief_90
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:37 pm
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So can we assume that this will be longer than the mercifully short less-than-one-hour-run-time of the anime original?
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:23 pm
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halochief_90 wrote: | So can we assume that this will be longer than the mercifully short less-than-one-hour-run-time of the anime original? |
I'd guess 100 minutes or so.
Mercifully? I happened to like Blood: The Last Vampire. Its biggest shortcoming IMHO was the fact that it was so short and did not include any developmental scenes (ie: plot). Regardless of whether they like or hate the movie, most people seem to agree that this was the movie's biggest failure... Which is why I find it odd that you say it was "mercifully short."
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Tony K.
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:16 pm
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tempest wrote: | I happened to like Blood: The Last Vampire. Its biggest shortcoming IMHO was the fact that it was so short and did not include any developmental scenes (ie: plot). Regardless of whether they like or hate the movie, most people seem to agree that this was the movie's biggest failure... |
Same with me. I love the production values (aside from those ugly lips), but felt 45-ish minutes was way too short for anything. They just give you very small hints about her past, show her killing a couple of Chiropterans, and that's it.
Blood+ did a slightly better job explaining her past and tying it into a good, suspenseful story. But towards the end, it relies too much on melodrama resulting in a horribly paced and drawn-out crap de jour.
It's too bad neither of the anime incarnations could give us anything to call 'definitive' yet. (But damn, I love Blood+'s soundtrack ).
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fighterholic
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:21 am
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So it's now officially for real. That'd be a laugh if AJ got the part, but would it really bring people to the theaters, you think?
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:26 am
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fighterholic wrote: | So it's now officially for real. That'd be a laugh if AJ got the part, but would it really bring people to the theaters, you think? |
Probably, seeing as how a lot of people actually think she's even remotely attractive . I mean, isn't she the only reason Tomb Raider had any success?
P.S.: I am not one of those people. I cannot stand her looks or image.
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Richard J.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:45 am
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Tony K. wrote: |
fighterholic wrote: | So it's now officially for real. That'd be a laugh if AJ got the part, but would it really bring people to the theaters, you think? |
Probably, seeing as how a lot of people actually think she's even remotely attractive . I mean, isn't she the only reason Tomb Raider had any success?
P.S.: I am not one of those people. I cannot stand her looks or image. |
At the risk of this turning into an anti-Jolie thread, I have to agree with you Tony K. I don't get the appeal.
Personally, I find a number of VAs here in the states far better looking than her. Add in all of the other actresses we see in front of the cameras and it boggles my mind that everyone focuses on Angelina Jolie.
At least they are casting a good looking woman like Ji-hyun Jun for Saya in this live action. (Can't think of anyone I'd cast for US production. I'd be more concerned about preventing the rights from being gotten by Uwe Boll. )
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fighterholic
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 2:59 am
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Richard J. wrote: | At least they are casting a good looking woman like Ji-hyun Jun for Saya in this live action. (Can't think of anyone I'd cast for US production. I'd be more concerned about preventing the rights from being gotten by Uwe Boll. ) |
I thought Uwe Boll could only lay his hands on video games, he'd try to touch anime as well?
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:05 am
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tempest wrote: |
Mercifully? I happened to like Blood: The Last Vampire. Its biggest shortcoming IMHO was the fact that it was so short and did not include any developmental scenes (ie: plot). Regardless of whether they like or hate the movie, most people seem to agree that this was the movie's biggest failure... Which is why I find it odd that you say it was "mercifully short." |
The only real problem with the Blood movie was that the entire Blood franchise was released ass-backwards in North America. The movie was only really meant to be an interlude or such that linked together some of the various novels, manga, and PS2 games that actually told the main story, and came well before the movie in terms of production. It was a good couple years after the movie that the manga was released locally, and a few more years after that that one of the novels was released. And we'll never get the PS2 games, I'm fairly certain.
Why Japan pulls this crap I do not know and would like to find out (assuming it doesn't just amount to "more money," which is fairly obvious). But unfortunately, they feel the need to spread stories out over multiple formats and force people to buy a book, a game, a comic book, a DVD, and another game on another system in order to make sense of it all (as opposed to, I dunno, just making it a novel or movie series or something simple and coherent like that). Gundam SEED and .hack fall prey to the exact same thing and it's aggravating as hell, especially when we only get fragments of these franchises that result in them getting really awful reputations here for being "crap" (when really, they're not, but Japan expects you to be a good Japanese consumer in order to find that out).
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GATSU
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:19 am
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So with Blood and Speed Racer actually happening, does anyone think Jimmy's going to shelve Avatar and go back to GunM for real this time?
Nagisa: The novel's even worse than the movie, since it's a 300 page college lecture with stupid conspiracy theories inserted at the end. The manga just looks like a cheap cash-in, and I'm almost certain the game is a "choose-your-own-adventure" type deal.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:42 am
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GATSU wrote: | Nagisa: The novel's even worse than the movie, since it's a 300 page college lecture with stupid conspiracy theories inserted at the end. The manga just looks like a cheap cash-in, and I'm almost certain the game is a "choose-your-own-adventure" type deal. |
The novel (I hope your talking about "Night of the Beast") hasn't been all that bad, but as I reach the end of the story I am having some difficulties trying to finish it. It does have the lecture feel to it, well at the point I am at (at least).
As for the Angelina comments above I do find her attractive however that isn't someone I would want playing my 15 year Saya....catch my drift. 30+ old lady doesn't really work for me anymore as a suitable name for this character however it would probably bring more people to the theater.
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Richard J.
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:44 am
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fighterholic wrote: |
Richard J. wrote: | At least they are casting a good looking woman like Ji-hyun Jun for Saya in this live action. (Can't think of anyone I'd cast for US production. I'd be more concerned about preventing the rights from being gotten by Uwe Boll. ) |
I thought Uwe Boll could only lay his hands on video games, he'd try to touch anime as well? |
To be honest, I don't actually know that he'd want to try and adapt an anime to live-action. His "efforts" with games have been so horrible in my opinion that I find myself worrying about it nonetheless.
That guy's thought process is so difficult to follow, I wouldn't put anything past him.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:55 am
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Tony K wrote: | Same with me. I love the production values (aside from those ugly lips),
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Ugly? It was one of the reasons I liked Blood too! They gave the charactors more realism. There aren't enough lips in anime in my opinion. <3
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omnistry
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Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:38 am
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I'm very excited about this film. Ronny Yu did a great job with "Jet Li's Fearless," and from what I read he's going to be 98% faithful to the original (aside from where it takes place, but having it a post-WWII flick is cool, too).
BTW: Yu was originally supposed to do "Snakes on a Plane," but New Line canned him 'cause they said his ideas weren't "PG-13 friendly" (before they went with the R).
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