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hayakunero



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:52 pm Reply with quote
Otaku has some meanings in Japanese. you, your house,... ugly anime/manga fanboy
So if you are a good looking guy, you might not be called Otaku. Razz
I read weekly jump but I'm never an otaku.
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Kouji



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:57 pm Reply with quote
Emptyone wrote:
I read the article and it was interesting. but I'm still wondering about the question i asked earlier. and want to know if any of you think that just watching alot of anime would make someone a otaku? or would it be just a hobby?
If you really want to know what an otaku is like, go watch Otaku no Video.
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Wolverine Princess



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:36 pm Reply with quote
I have a question for you, Emptyone. Are you asking this because you're afraid you might be an otaku, or because you want to be one? (You don't have to answer that if you don't want to, I'm just curious.)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:46 pm Reply with quote
You know, I really don't think anyone wants to become an otaku, I'll paraphrase Genshiken since Madarame said it best. I believe it was something like:

"An otaku isn't something you try to become, it's just something you realize you've become."

Which most aptly describes me over the last month. I never wanted to admit it... but... there's not much of an argument I can make at this point.
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Emptyone



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:06 am Reply with quote
to answer wolverine princess's question. I wouldn't say that i'm afraid of being one, but i don't really want to be categorized with the people that are TOO serious. Like the people that have little animation toys in their room or pics of naked anime characters or dress like their favourite anime characters. See I don't have those kinds of things or do those kinds of things. I just watch it, but don't make it my life. I don't even read mangas. So that's why i think for me it's just a form of entertainment, but some people assume that i'm like those guys because i have a lot anime.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:20 pm Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
Check out this article about the history of the word "otaku". I thought it was very fascinating.


That article rocked. Smile
For me, anime is a little of column A, a little of column B. I see it as both a lifestyle and a form of entertainment, but in the former case, it's not like this stuff completely dominates my life.
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AirCooledMan_2006



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:00 am Reply with quote
Emptyone wrote:
to answer wolverine princess's question. I wouldn't say that i'm afraid of being one, but i don't really want to be categorized with the people that are TOO serious. Like the people that have little animation toys in their room or pics of naked anime characters or dress like their favourite anime characters. See I don't have those kinds of things or do those kinds of things. I just watch it, but don't make it my life. I don't even read mangas. So that's why i think for me it's just a form of entertainment, but some people assume that i'm like those guys because i have a lot anime.


I have hentai pics (mostly yuri), but I only look at that kind of stuff in moderation. (Most of my yuri is shojo-ai; all my hentai is few and far between.)
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SalarymanJoe



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:09 pm Reply with quote
selenta wrote:
You know, I really don't think anyone wants to become an otaku, I'll paraphrase Genshiken since Madarame said it best. I believe it was something like:

"An otaku isn't something you try to become, it's just something you realize you've become."


I've not gotten around to watching Genshiken yet, but I know the quote is true...

Kouji wrote:
If you really want to know what an otaku is like, go watch Otaku no Video.


... because of the first time I watched that OAV. I had that same realization as I was watching the "Profiles of Otaku" segments and saw a little bit of myself in each one.

To get to what the OP is asking, I have to agree that there are few quaitative terms to define an otaku, even more so that the usage of the word has taken on different connotations.


Oh, Wolverine Princess, thanks for posting that long yet very informitive quote. F'in' saved.

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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:13 pm Reply with quote
I always cringe when I hear anime fans call themselves "otaku". I have a tendancy to think of that famous case in Japan when I hear it...and that word also tends to just have this connotation of "I'm passed the level of 'healthy' obsession". When people call me an otaku, I have a tendancy to wince and say "No, I'm a geek!"
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:52 pm Reply with quote
You know, I've been thinking about this theory for a while, since I'm diagnosed with it... Do you think a good number of otaku have Asperger syndrome? The two main characteristics of it (difficulties with social behavior and narrow, intense interests) seem to describe a lot of what people would consider to be otaku-like behavior. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's any proven correlation between them.
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Wolverine Princess



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:42 pm Reply with quote
PantsGoblin wrote:
You know, I've been thinking about this theory for a while, since I'm diagnosed with it... Do you think a good number of otaku have Asperger syndrome? The two main characteristics of it (difficulties with social behavior and narrow, intense interests) seem to describe a lot of what people would consider to be otaku-like behavior. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's any proven correlation between them.

How ironic, I just did a report on Asperger's for Health class. While I was researching it I kept thinking to myself, "This doesn't just sound like me, this is me." Now I'm really worried that I might really have this syndrome.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:24 am Reply with quote
PantsGoblin wrote:
You know, I've been thinking about this theory for a while, since I'm diagnosed with it... Do you think a good number of otaku have Asperger syndrome? The two main characteristics of it (difficulties with social behavior and narrow, intense interests) seem to describe a lot of what people would consider to be otaku-like behavior. I'm just wondering if anybody knows if there's any proven correlation between them.


Friends of my family, their youngest son has that. You mention poke'mon, anything final fantasy, or star wars and you'll never hear him stop. Anything else he's very drawn back, and just doesn't care. He's also a musical prodigy, plays 5 instruments. He plays them well and has played with the Baltimore Symphony Orchestra with their young prodigy program, or whatever it's called. The thing is he doesn't see it as an accomplishment, it's just whatever to him.
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Samurai-with-glasses



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:56 pm Reply with quote
You can't mistake Asperger's from something like an ordinary otaku, though. The behavior is more complex than mere obsession with a particular activity or object -- are you having trouble socializing, sympathizing with certain emotions? How about your attitude towards school or other activities in general? Otherwise it'll be like ADHD: everybody seems to say he or she has one nowadays, for whatever reason, that I've begun to become a split-personality person on the issue -- between the curiosity if I actually has ADHD too as I notice certain repetitive behaviors and phobias of my own or if it's all getting waaaaay off and real ADHD people are being mixed with popular paranoia and mere routine.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:06 pm Reply with quote
For the record, ADHD is not really a 'disease' of any sort. My doctor describes it more as a personality characteristic that can be modified with drugs. He also said that depending on the person diagnosing the patient, as many as 90% or more of the patients examined are 'diagnosed' with ADD or ADHD; seemingly based entirely on how active they were.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:52 am Reply with quote
Wolverine Princess wrote:
Now I'm really worried that I might really have this syndrome.


"Worried"? Hmm, I really thought I knew you better then to think that... I really hate words such as "syndrome" and "disorder" as it makes it sound like it's such a negative thing to have this... There is by no means anything you should think is "bad" about having Aspergers. In fact, many of the greatest minds in history such as Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton, Ludwig Wittgenstein, etc. have been theorized to have Aspergers (although, you probably already knew this since you did a project on it). People with Aspergers often times just think differently than normal people. This isn't a bad thing though, I'd actually be willing to say it is definately a good thing.

Unfortunately, this way of thinking also comes at the cost of having horrible social skills and interacting with people often proving to be difficult. I know this only too well... as it's a huge problem of mine. Don't think that this means you can't succeed though, as people with Aspergers are perfectly capable of overcoming a lot of this, it just takes a lot of effort, and you have to be willing to put in this effort (I believe I have overcome a lot, and although I still do have problems with it, I think of how I was before and I know I have definately made huge improvements...).
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