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Hitsu



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:07 pm Reply with quote
Can someone enlighten me on something that has been bothering me for sometime now. When it comes to manga, I'm totally clueless. To my knowledge, all the anime I'm watching now are based on manga, so are all anime based on manga? I'm searching for anime not based on manga to see the difference in story and artwork. Unfortunately, I haven't found one yet.
Is it a rule or something that anime has to be from some manga? Is it troublesome or more work to do anime not from manga that's why there are few out there or none at all?
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bluepita



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:13 pm Reply with quote
No, not all anime is based on manga. Manga can also be original work or based off of something else. Howl's Moving Castle was based off a Western novel. Neon Genesis Evangelion was an original work, although a manga was later made. I think part of the reason so many manga are adapted into anime has to do with marketing, stuff along those lines. For example, if there is already a large fanbase for a manga, it stands to reason that these people will watch the anime, so you have a ready made fanbase from the start.
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frentymon
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:21 pm Reply with quote
Although a lot of anime series are indeed based off of manga (in fact, most mainstream shounen titles are), anime can be based off of anything. Evangelion is an original work, Haibane Renmei was adapted from doujinshi (unpublished manga), Kanon is based off of a visual novel game, Disgaea is based off of a console RPG, Kino's Journey is based off of a Japanese novel series, and Gankutsuou is based off of a western classic, to name a few.

bluepita wrote:
I think part of the reason so many manga are adapted into anime has to do with marketing


True, and one of the reasons many series animate part but not all of a manga is to get you to buy the manga afterward to continue the storyline.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:37 pm Reply with quote
No. There are even instances where the manga will be based off the anime. Most hentai anime I know of are based off hentai PC games, and there are also certain anime (not hentai) that have no counterparts at all.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:55 pm Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:


bluepita wrote:
I think part of the reason so many manga are adapted into anime has to do with marketing


True, and one of the reasons many series animate part but not all of a manga is to get you to buy the manga afterward to continue the storyline.


If a series is popular as a manga, it will likely be popular as an anime for the same reasons. Plus, you know there is already a fanbase (though this can be a double-edged sword if the adaptation is poorly done or differs from the source material).
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:00 pm Reply with quote
As far as I know, Tenchi Muyo had no manga counterpart until after the success of its set of animated series.

fighterholic wrote:
Most hentai anime I know of are based off hentai PC games


In addition, some non-hentai series such as Fate-Stay are based of a hentai game of same title.

Hitsu wrote:
Unfortunately, I haven't found one yet.
Is it a rule or something that anime has to be from some manga?


No, but MOST of anime do stem off of a manga because manga is cheap. What more better way to find creative work by trial-and-error?

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Is it troublesome or more work to do anime not from manga that's why there are few out there or none at all?


Animation is a complex process. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_animation

Bluepita wrote:
I think part of the reason so many manga are adapted into anime has to do with marketing


And this is the case with anything media. Fairly difficult to know about something if attention to that something is low.
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:14 pm Reply with quote
KyuuA4 wrote:
As far as I know, Tenchi Muyo had no manga counterpart until after the success of its set of animated series.

fighterholic wrote:
Most hentai anime I know of are based off hentai PC games


In addition, some non-hentai series such as Fate-Stay are based of a hentai game of same title.


We've been getting a lot of those over the couple of years, actually.

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Hitsu wrote:
Unfortunately, I haven't found one yet.
Is it a rule or something that anime has to be from some manga?


No, but MOST of anime do stem off of a manga because manga is cheap. What more better way to find creative work by trial-and-error?

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Is it troublesome or more work to do anime not from manga that's why there are few out there or none at all?


Animation is a complex process. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_animation


It's always easier to work off of something that already exists (and has a fanbase) rather than create something original. Also, making an adaption of something is already popular is going to be more attractive to the guys up to than gambling on something that no one has heard of before.
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Azathrael



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:33 pm Reply with quote
Hitsu wrote:
Can someone enlighten me on something that has been bothering me for sometime now. When it comes to manga, I'm totally clueless. To my knowledge, all the anime I'm watching now are based on manga, so are all anime based on manga? I'm searching for anime not based on manga to see the difference in story and artwork. Unfortunately, I haven't found one yet.
Is it a rule or something that anime has to be from some manga? Is it troublesome or more work to do anime not from manga that's why there are few out there or none at all?


For future reference, all anime I've watched that was based on a novel has not disappointed me. I don't think anybody will disagree much on it either. Check some of those titles out. :)
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:40 pm Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:
It's always easier to work off of something that already exists (and has a fanbase) rather than create something original. Also, making an adaption of something is already popular is going to be more attractive to the guys up to than gambling on something that no one has heard of before.


Indeed. An anime's marketability has a great advantage, if its name already exists out in the market. This is especially true for many of the material published via Shonen Jump. We've seen the likes of Dragonball, One-Piece, Bleach, Yugioh, Naruto, and more emerge - and producing massive "sales".
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Noggy



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:40 pm Reply with quote
Well, one thing that I've picked up on is the Giant Robot anime tend to be original works. Series I've seen like Evangelion, Escaflowne, Patlabor and Eureka 7 were anime to begin with I'm pretty sure. Of course there are exceptions that I've seen like Full Metal Panic, which is based off of a novel series. Why that is is beyond me. I guess giant robot manga isn't all that popular or something.....

If you want really well known series in different genres, then there's Cowboy Bebop, Tenchi Muyo (which has been mentioned already) FLCL, Witch Hunter Robin and Samurai Champloo. All of those aired on Cartoon Network/Adult Swim and I'm *pretty* sure were all anime originals.

There are plenty of series not based off of a manga, but something else (novel/book, video game, etc), but people have already said better than I could why a lot of anime are based off of a manga.
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Hitsu



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:41 pm Reply with quote
HitokiriShadow wrote:


If a series is popular as a manga, it will likely be popular as an anime for the same reasons. Plus, you know there is already a fanbase (though this can be a double-edged sword if the adaptation is poorly done or differs from the source material).


I can understand that but why does popular anime ends even though its manga counterpart still going on. For example, Fruit Basket, the anime has 26 episodes but the manga is still going on.
Also, why does some anime story kinda differentiate from the manga. For example, Love Hina, The girl whom Keitaro made a promise to is different in anime and manga.
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:49 pm Reply with quote
Hitsu wrote:
Also, why does some anime story kinda differentiate from the manga.


Some creators do require to maintain the original story. However, studios CAN change the story if they choose to do so.
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Noggy



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:08 am Reply with quote
Hitsu wrote:

I can understand that but why does popular anime ends even though its manga counterpart still going on. For example, Fruit Basket, the anime has 26 episodes but the manga is still going on.


Basically because the anime is a glorified ad for the manga. Granted, that's not always the case I'm sure, but I think that's the way it is a lot. Maison Ikkoku is the only manga I've read and can think of off the top of my head that was animated to the very end.


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Also, why does some anime story kinda differentiate from the manga. For example, Love Hina, The girl whom Keitaro made a promise to is different in anime and manga.


Well, I've only read Love Hina so I can't comment on that specifically but a lot of anime series invent their own ending because the entire manga isn't planned to get animated to it's end and the anime has to end somehow, even before the mangaka him/herself may know how the story will end.

Or with series like Fullmetal Alchemist the anime caught up with the manga and the only choices were to invent a new story for the anime or stop the series in order for the manga to get further ahead (or go with fillers). In that case they chose the former.
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hagakure|returns



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:29 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
Although a lot of anime series are indeed based off of manga (in fact, most mainstream shounen titles are), anime can be based off of anything. Evangelion is an original work, Haibane Renmei was adapted from doujinshi (unpublished manga), Kanon is based off of a visual novel game, Disgaea is based off of a console RPG, Kino's Journey is based off of a Japanese novel series, and Gankutsuou is based off of a western classic, to name a few.

bluepita wrote:
I think part of the reason so many manga are adapted into anime has to do with marketing


True, and one of the reasons many series animate part but not all of a manga is to get you to buy the manga afterward to continue the storyline.


Unlike here in the US, most people in Japan read manga than watch anime. It might gained many new fans, but the majority of the serie's fan have already read the manga. When an anime is adapted from a popular manga, it's because the fanbase is huge and many otaku want to see their favorite manga animated. So it helps both the anime and manga in term of advertistment. Anime companies are looking to profit as well and it's easy for them to adapt popular series. It's not like anime company are doing it solely to promote the manga (they could probably care less since they don't profit off manga sales)
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:32 am Reply with quote
hagakure|returns wrote:
That's quite inaccurate. Unlike here in the US, most people in Japan read manga than watch anime. When an anime is adapted from a popular manga, it's because the fanbase is huge and many manga fan will want to see it animated. It might gained many new fans, but the majority of the serie's fan have already read the manga.


Then going back to the "Why do some anime do not follow the manga?" Well, "what's the point of watching something if y'already know what's going to happen"?

Plus, if someone manages to come up with a new story direction, why not use it? Many key decisions will determine whether the final product will turn out good or bad.
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