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Tony K.
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Wow, that sounded awesome! I love Rukia's voice. Everything from inflection, to the subtleness of her comedy, and her chemistry with Ichigo flow real well.
Ichigo himself is also very good. Not quite as vulgar as the Japanese, but still damn great to listen to. It's good they try to add on to it by adding a curse word or two when he gets pissed off, though. I like the Soul Reaper phrase after thinking about the difference between that and other connotated uses of shinigami. It works well in sort of differentiating the concept of a "foot soldier" type (Soul Reaper) and a more culture-based "governor of death" type character (Ryuk from Death Note). I'm also real happy they kept zanpaktou and all the spell names as well. Pronunciations are great, and everything in the script sounds excellent so far. The only thing I can say I didn't really like was Kon's voice in the preview. He doesn't sound quite as hyperactive or skreechy, which is the main thing that makes him so funny. But for a first episode, I'd give it an A. Hell, if the quality continues at this rate, I may even prefer the dub over the sub  . I'm just really glad it's getting such a high-grade production.
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The Frankman
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So . . . will we have the "OMG they RUINED THE DUB IT SUX LOLOLOLLOLZZZ!!" people celebrating or the "HA!! WE SAID WAIT AND THE DUB IS GOOD!! VICTORY!!" celebrating? I didn't see the show, and have to wait a couple of days to compare it to the dual FMA/GITS:SAC premeire two years ago. SAme questions were asked then, I believe.
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Riyousha
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The "HA!! WE SAID WAIT AND THE DUB IS COOL!! VICTORY!!" celeprating. Because I like both the sub and the dub. 
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SharinganEyes92
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I wouldn't give it an A, more like a B+ or an A-. It was very good. As I said, Ichigo's voice grows on you. There was never a problem with Rukia's voice for me. It was perfect from the beginning. As for the "zanpakutou" thing, I just thought it disrupted the whole flow of how they had all the other things going. I mean, like in my previous post, I said they had "Spirit Energy" instead of "reiatsu" and "Soul Reaper" instead of "Death God/Shinigami". I really expected them to have it as "Soul Slayer" to accompany "Soul Reaper". It didn't make it less enjoyable, but it's just something that makes you wonder why they might have kept it like that. It was very good though, but seeing as how it was the first episode, and how Bosch has only just started to grow into the role, I rated it slightly lower than you. Overall, it was handled very well. I think the series will definitely be a success. I'm definitely watching next Saturday's episode, because I never got a chance to watch the second episode (I only read it in the manga). |
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The Naked Beast
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I saw the first episode and felt Johnny did a good job with Ichigo. Johnny's portrayal of Ichigo sounds nothing like his other roles. I can at least recognize his voice in Wolf's Rain, Akira, and Gankutsuou, and slightly Eureka Seven. He can do Kiba- and Albert- voices well since it sounds the most like his normal voice. His Renton- and ichigo- are complete opposites, high and low. Still Johnny did an awesome job portraying Ichigo as irritated and cynical.
Michelle Ruff as Rukia sounds like Eugenie (Gankutsuou) and Tatiana (Last Exile). I did not even know she was also one of Ichigo's sisters. I like the dub considering this is the first time I have seen the show. While all my friends are on episode who-knows-what years before this day, I was watching other licensed stuff. I wonder how it sounds in Japanese. A great first episode considering that it closely follows the manga closely. If I do not forget I might catch next week's episode. |
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Dargonxtc
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100% agree with that one. She is dead-on as far as I think. And wow, thats, just really good. JYB did great as well, and I expect him to progress, as I believe his range is up to it. I have to give an A overall as well, it was definitely the high-light of the night. I am pumped.
I agree, a lot of people(the clips people) have called it another Vash rehash, but I don't think so. I think he did very well. And I suspect it will get even better. It was clearly different than a Vash, and well done. Trinity also made it out tonight, but since it is not in the title I won't go into it. But I have some strong feelings on the 1 ep on that one, not all good, not all bad. But from what I understand, that is to be expected |
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Sciiryo
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Wow you people are really tough to please i mean the voice shouldn't be compared to japanese voices 1,because the japanese have no accent and 2.the voices should be used to match the charcter not the japanese VA In fact i like the english more then the japanese because i fell it matches his charcter more I never was all over the japanese VA in first place because i indeed sounds more pucky and braty then he acts everyones voice matches there personality i did not watch the preview to see kon's voice so i cant say on his but i didn't like him anyway as for the name of the swords being the same i at least thought that they should keep something the same although i did like soul slayer better but that doesnt match up with the title of soul reaper as in they dont slay souls. but as far as all that goes i dont think they could have done it better i mean dam how much do you guys want. |
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Richard J.
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Personally speaking, I think this may be the best dub for a recent show. Everything felt spot on for me and every voice sounded great. (Except Kon. Really not liking that voice right now, but hopefully it was done that way for the silly preview.)
On the whole "Soul Slayer" vs. "Zanpakutou" thing. I think it's best that they left it "Zanpakutou." They had to translate "Reiatsu," since it's not clear without a translation what the word means. (If you had never seen Bleach or read a translation, would you be able to easily pick up that it's "Spirit Energy?") The same with "Shinigami" vs. "Soul Reaper." A person never before exposed to the term wouldn't be able to immediately pick up the meaning. However, it is clear when Rukia holds up the sword that it's the "Zanpakutou" she's talking about. That's why they left the incantation and spell untranslated. It's clear she's using magic so there's no need to explain. I could be completely wrong about why they translated some things and not others, but I think I've got it right. Now, what I am curious to see is if they will translate spoiler[the names of the "Zankautous."] Also curious what they'll do about some of the odd honorifics that don't really have english equivalents. spoiler[ Like Rukia calling Byakuya Nee-sama(spelling?)] *Spoiler warnings in place to protect those who have never seen Bleach in any form from potential revelations! (Probably not necessary but I hate when people spoil things for me so I'm being cautious. |
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LightYagami
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Personally if I had the option to pick Kons voice I would have picked Gilbert Godfried(sorry about the misspelling) because his voice sounds closest to that of the Japanese Kon voice, thats just my opinion though. Anyhow, who plays Kons voice for the english dub?
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Spotlesseden
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i didn't like Rukia's voice that much. see sounds like old.
but overall, it's a good dub. i would like them to use the term death god over Soul Reaper or shinigami. heck shinigami means death god anyway. Death God sounds cooler to me that's all. |
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DemonEyesLeo
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Darn you people getting to see it earlier than me, stupid Mountain time zone and Comcast. I only just finished watching it.
My initial impressions. Like with most dubs when I watch the sub version many times over it takes a bit of getting used to. But I like what they've done with it. Bosch does a great Ichigo, though I think he could make him sound a bit harsher in some parts. Michelle is perfect as Rukia, serious but humorous at the same time. Isshin was perfect, a child trapped in a man's body. Kon...not so great, but like the promo it wasn't even 10 seconds of dialog so it's hard to get a fully accurate judgement. I'll wait for his official entrance. I didn't expect them to use "Zanpakuto," but well whatever. Overall it sounds terrific, I'm going to enjoy rewatching this series. |
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joel_s95387
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Boy have my thoughts changed since the initial post. But I have to say it was awesome. I also think the actual anime compliments the dub, although I was feeling okay with Ichigo's voice, I later just got so wrapped up in the story and the story just flowed and the comparisons left my head. Definately an awesome performance for an even better anime. I hope it's hear to stay.
As for Trinity Blood, I didn't like it at all. Although I felt the dub was really good, Abel's voice was just like I imagined in my head... pretty much like Vash's, but I didn't like the story itself at all. I have to admit I've been watching the subs, but right now it just feels like I'm watching it just to say I did. |
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Samurai-with-glasses
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First of all, on the topic itself: I have no particular gripe with the Bleach dub. At all.
Then again, I'm one of those people who fit in with Renton's voice immediately while others whine and panic, ah well. From what I've seen so far, Bleach's dub isn't suffering from any particular problems yet. It's only to be expected, though, with such a big release. On the episode itself, how do I say it... Now, please don't flame me, but I think the pacing is rather problematic. The manga takes the Ichigo-to-spoiler[Soul Reaper] sequences much slower and far more effective than the anime. In this episode, one minute Rukia just entered the house and another Ichigo's spoiler[transforming] already. All the dramatic pace I imagined in my head while reading the manga seems to be driven forward a little too fast here. [And yes, kill me for having never watched it fansubbed before.] Ah well. I'm sure it'll get better once it settles down to the development part. In any case it does look very good so far. Now, on other side notes: Trinity Blood: disappointing. I hate to say this, but, I see so much potential wasted by cheesy dialogue and bad pace. It could've been so cool had they pushed it a little slower, a little more natural than it does. The first episode starts out with two strangers acting immediately intimate (no, I don't mean the "flirtiness" of it, mind you -- how the girl falls swiftly into an "I have a dream spoiler[(to be a captain)]. Sigh," cliche so fast is what bothers me) and while the character designs are cool, the Vatican Cardinal lady screams, I don't know, old-fashioned cliched "powerful" character to me. They could've kept some hints less obvious (what's with that smile on the "brother" Cardinal?) and the weak boy of a Pope less obviously weak. Or Jessica's (her name, right?) "I can do this!" moment less cheesy than it is. And they would've had a very interesting anime. Gah. 'Guess the Gothic trend isn't going full potential. Eureka 7: That screams Evangelion right at my face. Loud. And that's cool. 
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Animedude35
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I had to admit, but I did have some high hopes for the dub, and it didn't fail to deliver. Both Ichigo and Rukia's VA sounds like they have chemistry and it fits very well with their characters. Also, the other supporting cast sounded great and it didn't ruin my ears for life, but I do admit that Kon's voice needs work.
With regards to the whole "why keeping the japanese while everything else is translated to english" deal, I don't mind it at all, because "Zanpakuto" sounds a lot cooler than "soul slayer". Other than that, it's off to a great start. |
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Godaistudios
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Gotta agree with the Kon issue - it just sounded... bad. I don't think Michelle Ruff's Rukia is there yet... but it's quite good. And for the sake of discussion, I'm cross-posting: Just watched the first episode. Color me impressed. Anybody who has been around here long enough and seen many of my rants on the subject knows my position. I generally prefer the original language - and watch 90% of my stuff with english subtitles. This has the making of a very good dub. Actors and a director who truly care about the project they are working on. Speaking as both an anime fan and an actor, I really liked what I heard tonight. Johnny Yong Bosch slid right into the role for Ichigo. Just wait until the majority of the cast gets a full handle on their characters - I believe it will get even better. Now while I do personally think the Naruto dub (as a whole) is kinda crappy (some individual work was solid), this may be the first dub associated with Viz that I've liked in recent years. |
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