Forum - View topicBake- / Nisemonogatari LE: How many were produced?
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Risu0042
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Recently I have bought Aniplex Limited edition releases of Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari. Over all, for a collector’s item they were not bad. Better quality on a release could be found on my Anohana by NIS Amarica and the re-release of Lain by Funimation. The minuscule difference can be argued between the four titles and three distributors on packaging and presentation but overall what is making the Aniplex release so much more valuable is the fact it’s a Limited Edition, saying that only so many were produced. My question is how many were produced though? How unique are the items that I picked up? I have searched though the internet to see if there was a published quantity by Aniplex and have found nothing, or even a speculation as to how many were produced by fans. The certificate of authenticity that was provided with the two sets do not state how many were produced ether. I have e-mailed Aniplex directly asking this question but have yet to hear a response from them. So turning to the fans directly, has anyone out there seen a published distribution quantity on these two limited edition sets, or at least a speculative amount? As a selling point for these items I would have though a number would have been published.
[EDIT: Made the thread title a little less long-winded. -TK] |
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Polycell
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Nobody knows - all we can see is that RightStuf still doesn't have a counter on either(and neither do the Madoka LEs), which just tells us they produced a decent number more than they sold(but still probably fewer than the Patlabor LEs).
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SpacemanHardy
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Aniplex of America..... actually responding to a customer's e-mail....
LOL. 
That was a great one, Risu. Tell us another. But to answer your question seriously, no, there's no indication on how many copies were produced at all. My personal thoughts are they simply slapped the word "Limited" on it so that people would think they were in short supply, and therefore be more willing to drop the absolutely ridiculous price of $150 on it just to own it. I do know, however, that RightStuf has completely sold out of it - I think, on at least two occasions - only to magically receive more copies in stock. Therefore, I take that as a sign that the boxsets will only be limited when people actually stop buying them. In other words, you done been hustled by da hustlaz. 
As for me, I'm buying a region free bluray player and importing the UK release, just so I can show Aniplex of America where to shove it. 
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WTK
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Probably fewer than Patlabor LEs? The print run for movies 1 & 2 were 10,000 each from Bandai Visual USA. There is no way that any North American distributor will press that amount now (or close to it). |
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Risu0042
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Well, I guess I am glad that it just wasn’t me and no one really knows the answer to that. I have decided to do some speculation and see what I could come up with in the way of possible copies sold to net a profit off of the series. Again this would all be speculative and educated guessing. I am guessing that the major cost of this show what the licensing. AoA still has to license shows even though they are owned by AoJ, I am assuming Bake would be a more expensive one to license as well, and probably being somewhere between $600,000-$800,000. (This speculation is biased on previously seen licensing costs that were released in a lawsuit between A.D. Vision, Inc. and ARM Corporation; this lawsuit took place during the last days of ADV animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-30/adv-court-documents-reveal-amounts-paid-for-29-anime-titles). Another known would be what copy I have my set was included with a certificate of authenticity, which has printed on it I assume a run number. The copy I have is 2502. Now Let’s say that AoA was planning on grossing $1m off of this title at the $180 price point which they plan to market the series at they would have to sell about 5600 copies in order to gross just over $1m. The fact that Right Stuf has been sold out then had copies come in, this could be in due to the fact that in order to keep production costs low AoA has only been producing copies in batches as to not end up with over stock if they don’t sell as many as intended. I am sure that this would have not been printed off in odd numbers so I will assume that they make copies in runs of 1000, so I will say that there are 3000 copies made as of current. With simple math at a $180 price point would generate $540,000 gross. If they got the License for cheap ($200,000-$300,000) they would be making a profit at this many runs.
This logic is full of speculation and assumptions so I could be way off as well. But with the few observations I have gathered and what I have researched, this is the conclusion I have come up with. I would hope after they do stop creating copies they will release a final confirmed count of what was produced. If demand is still relevant for this series after the limited editions are no longer selling they would probably do what they did with the original release of Oreimo. Come out with a standard edition DVD sale at a lower price point. I know there are people out there who could care less about a limited edition but still would like to own this set. So again, these are my observations and opinions feel free to yell at me if you think I am crazy or in denial. |
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Spotlesseden
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who care. It's just transfer money to another branch and they can pay less tax on the American side. It would be much better if they have net loss, no tax. All the money go back to Japan. Apple is doing something similar. Make execute to transfer money to other countries, so they don't have to pay American tax. Who hell want to pay 40% tax when other countries charge much less. |
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