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Castillo1380
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I've watched my fair share of anime out there. But its always bugged me when ever a series ends because you still have so many questions in what happens after. Also it feels that the anime was not ended properly and you want to see what happens next, but there isn't anything after. Has there ever been an anime out there at ends itself perfectly, knowing that there are no loose ends that leave you thinking?
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adonais
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Just a nitipck: an ending with no loose threads that leave you thinking is not my idea of a "perfect" ending
 How dull if everything is perfectly clear!
(I think there was another thread "best anime ending" not so long ago, that you might want to peruse for opinions on this topic.) |
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rob101085
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I feel that having a few unanswered questions helps a story. For example in Now and Then, Here and There spoiler[La La Ru tells Shu she hope she can see another sunset with him and then disappears. I liked it that we don't know if he'll ever meet her again because Shu won't take so much for granted like the sunset at the beginning of the story]. I think that leaving a story a little open at the end keeps it more alive in your mind, and more fun to talk about. If everything ended completely I think a lot of people would be like, "oh, that's it?", and be unsatisfied. I guess I just like to be left thinking. Come to think of it, I can't seem to recall a series I've seen that answered everything.
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selenta
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Yeah, I have a question about that. I've noticed the mods tend to close down old topics that get brought back up, but then in the next breath they beat people for not using the search function and seeing the thread made about it 2 months ago. Where is the line drawn between too old and a new topic?
Well, as far as I can tell, the only way there can be no more story and be absolutely zero loose ends would be in shows like Air because spoiler[she's dead]. I would have to agree with adonais though, while this can be a very effective or good ending, the "best" endings are the ones that address what the show is about and leave the rest of the character's future implied, ex. FLCL, Twelve Kingdoms (shoulda just stopped at 39  )
I'd agree though that the WORST kind of endings are the ones that never address the issues the show is about (i'm looking at YOU Inu Yasha |
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marie-antoinette
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While I wouldn't necessarily call it perfect, the best ending I can think of for me would be Wolf's Rain. I know some people don't like how open-ended it is, but I enjoy the debate over what exactly it all means, plus spoiler[all the character deaths were done really well, so that it never really got to the point where you were like, "oh, there goes another one," but they all caused an emotional response, at least for me (and my roommate actually cried during Tsume's speech, and she never cries over fiction).]
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Kelly
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[quote="rob101085"]I feel that having a few unanswered questions helps a story. For example in Now and Then, Here and There spoiler[La La Ru tells Shu she hope she can see another sunset with him and then disappears. I liked it that we don't know if he'll ever meet her again because Shu won't take so much for granted like the sunset at the beginning of the story].
Regarding that, spoiler[I thought the implication was that she died drowning Hamdo and those of his minions who were unrepentant. Remember - she got weaker everytime she used her power and was afraid of what might happen to herself eventually if she kept using it. ] From what I've read, I get the impression that the anime that fustrate viewers the most tend to be those based on manga. Most anime are begun before the manga are completed, often forcing either artificial endings or unsatisfying blocks of filler as the manga catch up. I've also read some comments that the Japanese aren't as focused on neat endings as we in the west are. I don't mind having a little to decide for myself as long as I'm given enough to work with to draw a pretty good conclusion. |
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adonais
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Yeah, this is a bit fuzzy. I don't want to complain about the mods, now, but just to observe that they do seem to be taking the hard line quite often. I mean, there has to be a balance where it is still reasonable to ask a question that has already been answered/debated in the past. The search function can sometimes provide you with answers quickly, but the archives of this forum is a pretty vast collection, and you can get hundreds of hits even after narrowing it down. Even if the answer is in there, it can be a lot of work finding it. Also the audience here changes rather rapidly, and there are constantly new folks with new opinions and ideas. So if someone asks an "old" question there is bound to be a lot of new folks around who didn't participate in the discussion the first (or N:th) time around. Lastly, because the times they are constantly a-changing, you might not always be interested in reading a reply from six months ago, but more interested in starting a fresh debate. Just my 2c. |
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fighterholic
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The line according to Tony K. is one month, unless there are good responses that come out of the post. I think the only one with an almost perfect ending to me was Sailor Moon, "but why did all those people have to die and stuff like that?" I have yet to see a perfect ending, course maybe I need to see a little more anime too. |
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DemonDragonJ
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The best ending that I have ever seen in Japanese animation is the ending of Dragon Ball GT, which was otherwise a poorly executed series, in my opinion.
Other endings that I feel are also worth mentioning are the endings of Yu-Gi-Oh!; Duel Monsters and Scrapped Princess. All three endings left nothing unfinished, yet still left room for a possible continuation of each series. |
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Azathrael
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How ironic that someone with an avatar of Elfen Lied asks this question. I've also watched my fair share of anime and no anime has yet beaten Elfen Lied's ending. Even if an anime had "the perfect ending", I doubt it'd still be able to beat Elfen Lied's ending. Because all that does is tie up the loose ends, which is not how one measures how great an ending is. |
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Niceguy9418
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I don't mind, as long as it intentional. I hate when a series just ends right in the middle, for no reason, other than perhaps economics. (Anyone into Kare Kano? Ends right is the middle of a story, no ending at all!)
As for my fav... I can't really say. I've only seen a few series to completion. Like I said, as long as the ending is actually PLANNED then I can usually live with it. BYW - adonais? Love the Avatar. The Maxx totally kicks @$$! |
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adonais
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Oooh yay another fan!
That makes, errr - two of us? 
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ThatMatt
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A perfect ending....I gotta admit I don't think I've ever seen one. Vandread was the closest thing to a perfect ending I've seen. The crappiest ending ever was the one to Gun Frontier. Great Concept, nice mix of action and comedy, but the end of the series made it fall on its face IMO.
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Tony K.
Subscriber Moderator  Posts: 11459 Location: Frisco, TX |
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Yeah. If it's something old, but with enough subject material to recreate a buzz, then I usually let it sit and gather newer, (sometimes) better replies, such as the "trying not to cry" or "having a crush on an anime character" threads, as they are fairly general and easy to not screw up on. If it's something extremely narrow, old, or superfluous like "who likes Inuyasha" or some kind of really outdated news byte and the reviver contributes crapworthy one liners, then I'm more than likely to lock it. It just varies by topic. |
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opaquescum
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I can think of a few anime series that tie up loose ends at the end. Right off the top of my head the Please series do this. Heck they climax, and then give you another episode of pure satisfaction.
The problem is this, and most people probabally will never get it. That a ending must fit the series. Not fit the viewer. I beleive it is Shakespeare that wrote "To thy ownself be true.". Meaning that how the series went has a direct relationship as to how it should end. You cannot expect a series to end in a way contrary to how it was set up. To expect a series to go against its very nature in its ending is actually quite ludicrous. I mean should you actually expect a dark, and deep horror fest to have a fairytale ending? Should you expect a happy go lucky series with alot of cute, and cuddly characters to end in a tragic blood filled rampage? Personally I am still shocked that people expect a textbook ending from a series that has gone to some lengths to be original. When a series sets out to go against the grain in one way or another then why expect the ending to be any different. The worst ending in not the open ended one, or even the one that ties off all the lose ends. The worst ending possible is the tacked on ending. That does a greater injustice to the series, and the fans then either of the above. Perhaps I am more perceptive then others, but usually by the middle of the series I have a good idea what to expect from the ending. I do not conjure up perfect endings for things that I know will not have them, and perhaps the original poster needs to just accept that the ending is not about them. The perfect ending is only perfect if it fits the series. A ending has never been a promise of anything other then telling the audience that this is where this story ends. Endings are not about giveing you closure, or helping you finish off a world in your head. A ending could give you those, but it is by no means the duty of a ending to do that. A ending can leave you with a question, or provide a twist. A ending can be as simple as the hero rideing off into the sunset, or suddenly the action stopping in a cliffhanger. The mere fact that endings can happen any number of ways is actually very important. After all if every ending performed a specific function to meet some arbitrary standard of perfection than every series would have to be layed out exactly the same, and that would suck the flavor from them. |
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