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Examinee 623
Joined: 18 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:55 pm
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Mickey Mouse isn't great because he's more of a mascot than a character. Walt Disney said so himself. What makes Mickey seem great is that he's usually complemented by Goofy and Donald Duck.
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:02 pm
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god i love Ishihara. every time he opens his mouth, something comes out that will be quoted by everyone.
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dmanjdb
Joined: 22 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:07 pm
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That Shintaro Ishihara looks (on the Wikipedia site) like horrible person. How people voted for a guy like that?!?!?!
Otakus don't vote I guess.
Did he get booed when he said that?
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Keonyn
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:09 pm
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As a character he is no less capable than any other, you need only watch old Mickey cartoons to see the character function and work on his own. He's a kids character, so no he's not incredibly fleshed out with a major backstory and drama surrounding his actions, he's there to entertain and that's what he does and there is no shortage of anime characters on that same level.
Besides, it's not so much his comments but rather the fact you can add this on to a pretty long list of similarly closed-minded, near racist comments from this individual. Then to top it off with a statement that people of his ancestry are inherently more skilled is a bit of a ludicrous statement, I fear geography and culture doesn't cause one to be born with a greater array of skills and genetic traits that would facilitate such a thing are not race specific.
I'm not going to know someones right to freedom of expression either, but I'm also not going to ignore openly racist comments from a public speaker. Luckily most Japanese don't buy into it, the same way most Americans don't buy into our extremists.
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Ceru
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:40 pm
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icepick314 wrote: | Doesn't he know that Osamu Tezuka said his inpiration was from Walt Disney?
I remember him one time dissed French because it has too many way to count depends on what the item is.
And Japanese has exact SAME scheme. Counting sheets of paper is different from counting coins. |
O_o.
In French you count things the same way you count them in English... "one, two, three" ("un, deux, trois"). I can't think of a single incident where it'd be different.
Beyond that, the man is clearly an ignoramus anyway.
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scortia
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:43 pm
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It's no matter... Mickey is already spying on Ishihara and will open a keyblade of arse-kicking upon him for his treachery. >P
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Futurhythm
Joined: 20 Apr 2005
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Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:02 pm
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Keonyn wrote: | Besides, it's not so much his comments but rather the fact you can add this on to a pretty long list of similarly closed-minded, near racist comments from this individual. Then to top it off with a statement that people of his ancestry are inherently more skilled is a bit of a ludicrous statement, I fear geography and culture doesn't cause one to be born with a greater array of skills and genetic traits that would facilitate such a thing are not race specific. |
Exactly, besides wasn't it proven lately that there is no such thing as race and that it was just something that has been constructed during all this time?
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Quote: | "He has nothing like the unique sensibility that Japan has. The Japanese are inherently skilled at visual expression and detailed work." |
The Japanese sensibilities towards art are hugely different to those of the West. I don't think either one is less detailed than the other but they are indeed different. Besides, detail doesn't mean something is better.
This outburst is just another unjustified piece of stupidity to be uttered by Japan's favorite governor Ishihara. I think we're taking the things this guy says way too seriously. Unless he manages to pass a bill in which he is allowed to brainwash every single (Japanese) person on the planet to believe in the things his says dogmatically, I think the world can rest easy another day.
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minakichan
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:13 pm
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icepick314 wrote: | Doesn't he know that Osamu Tezuka said his inpiration was from Walt Disney?
I remember him one time dissed French because it has too many way to count depends on what the item is.
And Japanese has exact SAME scheme. Counting sheets of paper is different from counting coins. |
XDDD That'd be pretty funny, because while Japanese does have that scheme, French does not.
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JoshuaStChristopher
Joined: 20 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:46 pm
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Hahahaha! This guy pretty much sounds like many anime elitists I've encountered in the past.
I bet they'd get along with him very well. Or not. At all.
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Coral Skipper
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:57 pm
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Ah, arrogance coupled with ignorance what a potent combination. I support freedom of speech, but man if you are going to say something at least have the facts right. Its fair to say that Mickey lacks Japanese sensibilities, because, he's American. By the same token you could say that Astro Boy, and by descent most anime, has some American sensibilties. Its pretty well known that Osamu Tezuka was largely inspired by Walt Disney, so that is my logic on it.
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Lampbane
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 9:57 pm
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slickwataris wrote: | hahaha. Well in his defense Mickey Mouse isn't that relevant anymore. How many kids watch Mickey Mouse now? Seriously I doubt any child does. |
It's not Mickey's fault Disney doesn't make many cartoons with him anymore or even shows them.
Don't be hatin'.
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Flipnofunk
Joined: 14 Aug 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:22 pm
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sooner or later the governator might say he hates doraemon?
j/k
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SharinganEyes92
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:02 pm
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Better watch out, better not cry. Better not pout because I'm tellin' you why, Mickey Mouse is coming to kick you while your sleeping and shoot you in the head. Then he's going to cut you and throw you into the Ganges.
C'mon man. Mickey Mouse is a symbol for animation everywhere. He was one of the first cartoons ever. You can't just diss him like that. Walt Disney created him back in the 50's or whenever, and Mickey Mouse has been inspiration everywhere for animators.
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Kiriska
Joined: 01 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:06 pm
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I believe someone said it already but come on, Astro Boy was inspired by Mickey Mouse. :/
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Fronzel
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:08 pm
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dmanjdb wrote: | That Shintaro Ishihara looks (on the Wikipedia site) like horrible person. How people voted for a guy like that?!?!?! |
Nobody voted for him, they voted for his party. Parliamentary democracy lol.
dmanjdb wrote: | Otakus don't vote I guess. |
Probably not, but how many of them are there, anyway?
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