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Volibear
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:36 pm
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Aww man, i really need to go back over these, this review reminded me that i'm missing out on something great by no keeping up with releases
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Ulinox
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:28 pm
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Great review. Only a C for music, though? Well I hope it wasn't due to Suilen's input in 6-7, because bringing those on board was one of the best choices they could have ever made IMO.
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Greed1914
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:06 pm
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Ultimate has been a lot of fun. When I got this set I told myself I should try to spread it out in order to savor something I had been waiting years to see. Of course, that went right out the window and I watched all four right away.
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Lycosyncer
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:19 pm
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I just got the box set and I thought that the violence in the last set were quite excessive and insane but after watching this, I may have spoken too soon.
Yeah, it is freaking glorious seeing the war finally arrive and really, the images of seeing the Millennium invasion of London and is very unsettling to see and it is all the more easy to root for anyone to take these people down from Alucard to Anderson, it doesn't matter in the end.
Man, the last two episodes can't get here fast enough! I want more of Hellsing's bloody carnage!
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PrecisionCrab
Joined: 02 Nov 2012
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:21 pm
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Quote: | After watching Tokoro get his bearings and make the series his own, it's rather a shame to see it pass to a director who can do nothing but translate the original intact. Luckily, intact is all the series needs. This is Hirano at his boundary-pushing, mad genius best, and by delivering it all intact, Tanaka also delivers the best of Hellsing Ultimate. It's hard not to think how it'd have been even better had Tokoro stayed on, but it's spilt milk now. Time to look forward. Episodes nine and ten should be doozies, especially if Graphinica can paper over its weaknesses. |
Gotta admit. Some of the most nonsensical critique I've ever read. I don't even know what the hell you're complaining about. "He adds nothing new, which is a shame. But you know what? Nothing new needed to be added!" is essentially what you said. ...Which pretty much makes the criticism completely pointless to begin with. So yeah, what.
Quote: | Extras also favor the dub fan |
Oh, definitely! Did you guys check out that awesome dub they did for The Dawn!? Man, it was... Oh, wait. Nevermind.
Quote: | along with ham-handed insert songs |
That's kind of a mellow way of putting I think. That "Devil's Stocking" song was so bloody atrocious, it almost made me want to hit the mute button. It COMPLETELY took me out of the series for the time it was on.
For the record? For a series that takes place in Europe, features mostly European characters, and boasts an outstanding Engllsh/Bilingual dub, it just makes all the sense in the world to insert Japanese music. One of which is, to date, the absolutely worst J-rock piece of crap produced.
I'm also surprised this review made not a single mention of the hardsubbing Funimation screwed up with. Once again, I cite "Devi's Stocking." The only thing worse than being forced to hear the song? Being forced to see the f***ing lyrics obscure the carnage.
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ResistNormal
Joined: 06 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:33 am
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I liked "Devil's Stocking" caught myself humming it at work.
I wonder their reaction if my coworkers knew it related to baby eating nazi vampires scene.
Yea, how dare those Japanese stick a Japanese song in a Japanese anime, produced by Japanese people, based on a Japanese manga, and written by a Japanese author. Completely unheard of.
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:05 pm
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I've got a feeling that the people who created this series wanted to go out with a bang. If this review is right,they did that in spades.
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PrecisionCrab
Joined: 02 Nov 2012
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:17 pm
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ResistNormal wrote: | Yea, how dare those Japanese stick a Japanese song in a Japanese anime, produced by Japanese people, based on a Japanese manga, and written by a Japanese author. Completely unheard of. |
What's your point? If the Croatians want to make a movie about American rednecks in America, they won't use turbofolk music because it doesn't f**king belong - regardless whether the movie is Croatian produced, based on a Croatian story, written by a Croatian author. If they DO, it'll be weird, laughable, awful, and make the viewers feel pretty gosh darned embarrassed.
That s**t doesn't belong in an England ravaged by Nazis. It's not rocket surgery. "Devi's Stocking" is weird, laughable, awful, and it's embarrassing as hell to sit through it.
If you like it, cool. More power to you. Guess the 3% welcomes you.
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penguintruth
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:30 pm
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If there was only some way to combine the Hellsing Ultimate OVA with the music from the TV series. Now that was a great soundtrack.
Hm, but I guess it might not exactly fit the different feel of the OVA.
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gwdone
Joined: 01 May 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:05 am
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My only complaint is the "comedy relief" aspect. Ya know when the artwork gets all cheap looking and the pencil rolling etc etc etc? There may be a time and place for that within certain series, but Hellsing? Come on folks! What was convenient about the original Hellsing series was at least the comedy was shoved into the back of the episodes. Here we have intertwining of comedy relief within the normal run of the show. And I try very hard to forgive that believe it or not. To much of a hollywood recipe here....Get serious, then "relieve" the audience, then get serious again... I simply don't need that kind of relief in Hellsings main story line. Not to mention, those sections are just NOT funny!!
Now I have a blu-ray, dvd, cassette, 8-track, mp3..... blah blah of the same. The only thing that's "light" is my bank account! I love the good parts and dislike the useless filler content!
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eyeresist
Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:13 am
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Final paragraph - "stull" is not a word.
gwdone wrote: | My only complaint is the "comedy relief" aspect. Ya know when the artwork gets all cheap looking and the pencil rolling etc etc etc? There may be a time and place for that within certain series, but Hellsing? Come on folks! What was convenient about the original Hellsing series was at least the comedy was shoved into the back of the episodes. Here we have intertwining of comedy relief within the normal run of the show. |
I agree with you on this, but apparently the chibi humour was part of the manga, and Ultimate is all about being faithful to the manga, so there you go.
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gwdone
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:42 pm
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eyeresist wrote: | Final paragraph - "stull" is not a word.
gwdone wrote: | My only complaint is the "comedy relief" aspect. Ya know when the artwork gets all cheap looking and the pencil rolling etc etc etc? There may be a time and place for that within certain series, but Hellsing? Come on folks! What was convenient about the original Hellsing series was at least the comedy was shoved into the back of the episodes. Here we have intertwining of comedy relief within the normal run of the show. |
I agree with you on this, but apparently the chibi humour was part of the manga, and Ultimate is all about being faithful to the manga, so there you go. |
I'm lost on "Stull".... Okay,, I get it,, in the main article. Also thanks for the warning about the manga. My hopes were something similar to the original Hellsing series purchased years ago. Out of curiosity, did you laugh at the comedy in the new series? I didn't even crack a grin
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PrecisionCrab
Joined: 02 Nov 2012
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:50 pm
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It's stupid as hell, but it doesn't bother me enough. A spurt or two more, and it might have.
From what I recall, a lot of "hardcore fans" of Hellsing were pissed when the "comic relief" was removed in the original series. Sometimes, I think hardcore "fans" just look for inconsequential shit as reason to whine. They don't bother to question whether it's better off without it.
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gwdone
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:01 pm
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PrecisionCrab wrote: | It's stupid as hell, but it doesn't bother me enough. A spurt or two more, and it might have.
From what I recall, a lot of "hardcore fans" of Hellsing were pissed when the "comic relief" was removed in the original series. Sometimes, I think hardcore "fans" just look for inconsequential shit as reason to whine. They don't bother to question whether it's better off without it. |
Wow,, you guys have some great insight on this series that I wasn't aware of. Maybe I'm not anal enough about my anime homework I can't believe people were upset that the comedy interruptions were being put at the end of episodes in the original Hellsing release. I'm even more shocked that the comedy element is in the manga. I keep thinking how you could watch a good Anderson - Arucard full blown scrap and then take the elevator straight down to the bottom floor with non-humorous humor.
I really appreciate you out there setting me straight about all this. And I really do like the series. I may have to do some home editing to suit my taste. And yeah, you can't complain about someone sticking to the manga. Thanks everyone!!!!
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eyeresist
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:35 pm
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gwdone wrote: | Out of curiosity, did you laugh at the comedy in the new series? |
No, I don't think I did. I like humour that's character-based, or super-clever, but I think I'm too old to find "random" funny anymore.
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