Forum - View topicEnd of Samurai Champloo. (spoiler warning)
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x_Hisoka_x
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I just finished watching it and that was an awesome ending! There's a few things that I don't get/like. Didn't Kariya kill Mr. Seizos servant, yet he's seen with Fuu at the end. Also, I was really looking forward to a fight between Jin and Mugen. Wow, I loved the way Mugen killed Umanosuke. What are your thoughts on the ending? Also, can anyone tell me the name of the guy who made this and other animes he's done because I would really love to check them out.
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jousha
 Posts: 205 Location: the floating world |
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I didn't like the ending, but that's just me. I thought it was too pointless and cliche. I was expecting someone to die or something, so I'm of the mind to have a less "happy" ending. But I don't always mind "happy" endings, it's just a lot of them (like this one) aren't good (imo). I think it would have been better if there was more of a purpose for their splitting up.
Another anime they did was Cowboy Bebop; I don't know the names, but I'm sure you could find it in the anime section. |
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IchigoK90
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The servant was merely stabbed or was it slashed? haven't seen it in a while but as you can guess it probably wasn't fatal. Don't assume just because someone is stabbed or slashed that the wound is fatal. I mean Jin got stabbed and survived in that fight against that guy who I forgot his name. The endiing was Anti-Climactic, I mean they just split up at the road. Anyway cool ending song though. The director of Samurai Champloo is Watanabe Shinichiro, and his first work was Cowboy Bebop followed by its movie Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' On Heaven's Door. Also if you get a chance to watch Cowboy Bebop and loved the character designs you can check out Wolf's Rain as they have the same character designer as the one who did Cowboy Bebop. "Believe it!" - IchigoK90 |
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DarkTenshi90
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Since he apparently put his sword back in his sheath, I can probably say he hit him in the gut with the hilt of the sword. I enjoyed the ending of the show, however,spoiler[ I think they should have stuck together instead of seperating at the end, I figured they should just remain together. Maybe though, that was representing a start of a new life for each of them because I know Mugen and Jin had girls who fell in love with them (Mugen, I dunno how, but it happened.) ] Other than that, though, I liked it. |
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patch
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The director is Shinichiro Watanabe. He's been involved in numerous projects, but the only works that he has created are Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, and Detective Story from the Animatrix (although he also directed Kid's Story, it was written by the Wachowski brothers). If you enjoyed Samurai Champloo, then you really should watch Cowboy Bebop. The themes and storytelling style of Bebop and Champloo are very similar, although the settings for each are in a different time and place. So much so that my personal belief is that Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo are the first two parts of a trilogy that Watanabe will someday complete, I can go into further details but will save for a new thread. Also, as for the Animatrix short stories he was involved in, I feel Detective Story is the better of the two mainly it was written by Watanabe and it has connections with Cowboy Bebop 'genre'. 
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Stupidman007
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Ya, cowboy bebop is easily one of the best anime series ever made.
comparatively speaking, samurai champloo focused more on the hiphop culture and less on the actually story itself. I agree with DarkTenshi. I would've liked it better had spoiler[they not split up in the end and walked down the path together] |
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patch
Posts: 677 Location: New York, NY |
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removed spoilers below since the thread title itself is a 'enter at your own risk' warning
I didn't see it that way at all. I felt that the last episode really drove home the the significance of whole experience and journey that they had together and Fuu, Jin and Mugen all had realized how much there friendship meant to each other, and how important it was now in there lives. I looked at the going seperate paths more as signifing the end of this journey, not their friendship. Almost as if they were calling it a day and will see each other tomorrow to hang out for probably more adventures... Champloo movie?
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slickwataris
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did it end last night on adult swim??? My cable crapped out and I couldn't tape it so go figure.
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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It ended on DVD like the first half of January. I havn't seen it since, but I thought the ending was okay, not great, but pretty good. I definatly thought someone, Mugen, Jin, or Fuu was going to die, but I think thats what made the ending better. After seeing the Cowboy Bebop Ending, I really thought someone was going to die, so the ending was a surprise, surprise ending for me = good ending, of course there are exceptions (COUGH) GANTZ (COUGH).
The fight scenes were some of the best I have seen, and everyones story was concluded. yeah they could have stayed together, but whats the point? Them splitting up is actually a conclusion to the show, unless they somehow meet up again, but for now, the story was told, the characters split up, the series is over...unfortunatly. |
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TheVileOne
Posts: 272 Location: Texas |
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Those that were disappointed, I'm not exactly sure what you were expecting. Sure its not as good as Bebop was, but its still excellent in its own way.
It was important for Watanabe to show he can make a series with an ending like that. As for the ending: spoiler[Their journey was over and it was time for them to go on their separate ways. They will have their memories of their journey and perhaps Jin and Mugen are now at peace with themselves and can perhaps settle down, or maybe not. Just like the end of Bebop, the Bebop crew essentially breaks. Here the crew breaks as well, though its not quite as tragic. Its like people in their wayward youth have memories of their more wild times, and then they move on from those times and don't always associate with those people anymore. Life is kind of like that.][/spoiler] |
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jousha
Posts: 205 Location: the floating world |
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But what I found different about the "breaks" were that Champloo's characters didn't have reasons, while Bebop's characters did. I just felt it was a quick, bland way to end their journey together. Champloo didn't have to be "tragic" to be good, it just needed more purpose/substance/etc. in the characters' decisions to separate. The randomness expressed throughout Champloo wasn't my cup'o'tea, I guess, and the ending just emphasized that randomness. It was a "meh" kinda ending for me--similar to Beck's slideshow ending. |
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don'tlookbehindyou
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it sort of seemed right that they seperated. Fuu spoiler[sort of conned the other two into helping the others into helping her ]but they all needed to make the voyage. All throughout the series they each had to face their own weaknesses and confront their pasts and in the end Mugen and Jin even said they don't feel like fighting or killing anymore. So when theyspoiler[split ]it was to do what they wanted to do now that they were at peace with themselves.
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Keonyn
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I don't know, the series was never one that was meant to be taken all that seriously and I think people are trying to do just that.
spoiler[As for not killing the characters I'm actually glad he didn't as that would have been too predictable and too redundant after his previous work. Now if Jin and Mugen had decided to fight it would have pretty much tossed aside what development the series did have so that would have seemed out of place.] |
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outlawwolf
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Complete agreement with you both. How many times is someone going to have his main characters killed just to give off a sense of a "deeper" goodbye. The ending was apropriate for everything that Mugen, Jin and Fuu when through. And after Mugen and Jin accepted each other as friends, there was no way those 2 could have fought to the death. Also, to DarkTenshi90 about
spoiler[She was just using Mugen to kill her brother so that her and her real lover could collect all of the gold that he and his group stole. You know, the two part episode with the ship, can't remember the title or any of the other characters names off hand. In the end, Mugen killed her brother but he also killed her real lover leaving her poor, since her brother and her now dead lover were the only ones who knew where the gold was, and alone since she betrayed the man who once loved her ,Mugen, and her other lover was dead.] |
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omnistry
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It should've ended with them first splitting into the three paths; but then after the credits those three paths turn back into one. Other then that, it was great.
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