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mudduck454
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:59 pm
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maybe I could start a crowdfunded anime company, and see if anyone would give me money to license anime for selling in America.
I would try to get the shows no company wants to license. like..
Itazura na Kiss, Shugo Chara, Rizelmine, and others...
and have it set up that if I get over a certain amount, I will release the show with subtitles only, but if it reaches a higher amount, I will dub the show, and as incentives, the people who donate the most money get to help decide who is picked for the english dub.
The only stipulation I have, is every tsudere bratty little girls voice, be dubbed by Monica Rial. I just lover her voice, To me she is the Rie Kugimiya of english dubs, but then again I will always listen to the original japanese language when Rie Kugimiya is voicing a character
So how about it? anyone want to donate money??????
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Mc-Taz
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:15 pm
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Err, I think you missed the point of this website. What you've described is similar to something else already in the works--Sam Pinansky's website working with various Japanese publishers to subtitle, and possibly release, titles that have less exposure to the typical distributors using a crowdfunding/streaming model. This website mentioned in the article is one that is more like taking the Production I.G. Kick-Heart project idea, which was recently funded via Kickstarter, and forming a foundation for it specifically for anime production projects. If anything, it should allow for more small projects to be created that don't require the astronomical budgets of a season's run of TV episodes.
I like the ideas behind both websites, but I will agree that I'm much more interested in Sam's site, and what it will be offering. We just don't hear too many details about it very often; so there's no telling if his site is ready to launch any time soon, or if all of the details are still being worked out. Hopefully we will get some updates on it soon.
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Ashen Phoenix
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:20 pm
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A fascinating concept. I hope it proves successful and can breathe life into smaller projects that would perhaps never get the chance otherwise.
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mangamuscle
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:09 pm
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I wonder if it will really work, because most people will want to get a DVD or blu-ray (and maybe other assorted physical goodies) but since the projects most likely will be done in asia, S&H to europe and the americas would probably be quite expensive. Many people might be discourage of pledging 50 bucks if they will need to expende another 50 to get the goodies into their hands.
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vcmusik
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:03 pm
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If this can save Satoshi Kon's last work (Dreaming Machine, IIRC) that's been shelved by MadHouse, I'm all in.
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Kruszer
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:26 pm
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I would be interested if say for instance I could donate to a specific sequel season for shows I want to see get more sequels such as say continuing to adapt the rest of the Full Metal Panic novels or Highschool of the Dead season 2 fund. However, since I tend not to play Japanese games or read manga I haven't seen the anime to, I probably wouldn't be interested in funding those types of projects unfamiliar to me.
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TitanXL
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:08 am
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Kruszer wrote: |
Highschool of the Dead season 2 fund |
Not happening unless you kick the mangaka's behind and get him working again
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samuelp
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:16 am
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Mc-Taz wrote: | Err, I think you missed the point of this website. What you've described is similar to something else already in the works--Sam Pinansky's website working with various Japanese publishers to subtitle, and possibly release, titles that have less exposure to the typical distributors using a crowdfunding/streaming model. This website mentioned in the article is one that is more like taking the Production I.G. Kick-Heart project idea, which was recently funded via Kickstarter, and forming a foundation for it specifically for anime production projects. If anything, it should allow for more small projects to be created that don't require the astronomical budgets of a season's run of TV episodes.
I like the ideas behind both websites, but I will agree that I'm much more interested in Sam's site, and what it will be offering. We just don't hear too many details about it very often; so there's no telling if his site is ready to launch any time soon, or if all of the details are still being worked out. Hopefully we will get some updates on it soon. |
Patience will pay off in the end .
Forming partnerships of Japanese companies is like herding elephants...
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luisedgarf
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:17 am
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I thought the Japanese disliked crowdfunding.
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samuelp
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:31 am
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luisedgarf wrote: | I thought the Japanese disliked crowdfunding. |
That's somewhat true, but what they dislike is "begging", not the crowdfunding itself.
It's an extension of the Japanese business tendency to work together instead of as an individual... I.e. "An artist crowdfunds because they are incapable of working within the system"
All these opinions are rapidly changing anyway. I wouldn't attempt to say anything about what it will be like 3 years from now.
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Kruszer
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:20 am
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TitanXL wrote: |
Kruszer wrote: |
Highschool of the Dead season 2 fund |
Not happening unless you kick the mangaka's behind and get him working again |
I would if my legs were long enough to reach all the way to Japan. I think, I'd have to be turned into an anime character with CLAMP character designs first in order for that to happen though. So not gonna' happen.
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Genet
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:57 pm
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Kruszer wrote: |
TitanXL wrote: |
Kruszer wrote: |
Highschool of the Dead season 2 fund |
Not happening unless you kick the mangaka's behind and get him working again |
I would if my legs were long enough to reach all the way to Japan. I think, I'd have to be turned into an anime character with CLAMP character designs first in order for that to happen though. So not gonna' happen. |
I lol'd. So true.
Why's he on hiatus, anyway?
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mudduck454
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:59 pm
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Mc-Taz wrote: | Err, I think you missed the point of this website. What you've described is similar to something else already in the works--Sam Pinansky's website working with various Japanese publishers to subtitle, and possibly release, titles that have less exposure to the typical distributors using a crowdfunding/streaming model. This website mentioned in the article is one that is more like taking the Production I.G. Kick-Heart project idea, which was recently funded via Kickstarter, and forming a foundation for it specifically for anime production projects. If anything, it should allow for more small projects to be created that don't require the astronomical budgets of a season's run of TV episodes.
I like the ideas behind both websites, but I will agree that I'm much more interested in Sam's site, and what it will be offering. We just don't hear too many details about it very often; so there's no telling if his site is ready to launch any time soon, or if all of the details are still being worked out. Hopefully we will get some updates on it soon. |
My statement was partly a joke, mainly what I am trying to convey, is that crowd funding is becoming a normal thing, I am wondering how long it will take before it gets out of hand.
I would love to donate money, well I do, every time I buy an anime series, I am donating my money. but when you donate money to a kickstart, there is no guarantee it will ever see the light of day.
and I would be pissed if I donated, money for an anime, and it turns out to be horrible, I would feel like my money was wasted.
now don't get me wrong, the shows I listed in my comments, I would buy in a new york minute. but I will let others take the chance with their money, anime is such a gamble, shows I have liked were considered crappy, and shows I don't know what they were thinking when they made it, become popular, so I don't want to gamble on any series,
Well, except zombies, I think I would donate, to get more High School of the Dead.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:41 am
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mudduck454 wrote: |
Itazura na Kiss, Shugo Chara, Rizelmine, and others...
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Rizelmine, you say? If your hypothetical crowd-sourced licensing company would bring over something that politically-incorrect, I'd consider backing that on the condition you'd also hypothetically license the equally politically-incorrect Kodomo no Jikan.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:56 am
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samuelp wrote: |
luisedgarf wrote: | I thought the Japanese disliked crowdfunding. |
That's somewhat true, but what they dislike is "begging", not the crowdfunding itself.
It's an extension of the Japanese business tendency to work together instead of as an individual... I.e. "An artist crowdfunds because they are incapable of working within the system"
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Japan is not big on entrepreneurship. Better socially to be a president of a big company than an owner of your own business.
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