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JohnnySake



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:29 am Reply with quote
A dōjinshi of the weaponry of Homura-chan? I never knew something like that existed. It's too bad stuff like that is rarer than hen's teeth over here. Spending way too much time on the Modern Warfare series helped me to i.d. quite alot of the stuff she was using in the anime. Razz
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:16 am Reply with quote
JohnnySake wrote:
A dōjinshi of the weaponry of Homura-chan? I never knew something like that existed. It's too bad stuff like that is rarer than hen's teeth over here. Spending way too much time on the Modern Warfare series helped me to i.d. quite alot of the stuff she was using in the anime. Razz


Japanese gun otaku would appreciate the attention to details. Laughing
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MJP



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:32 am Reply with quote
As a Jew I'm more offended that ANN feels the need to warn people that there'll be WWII iconography that may or may not be offensive. Tiptoeing around the atrocities of WWII on all sides - American internment of Japanese-American citizens, Japanese biowarfare experiments on POWs and the Rape of Nanking, the Comfort Women, Chinese Communist and Nationalist atrocities against civilians, etc. - doesn't help prevent intolerance, genocide, and above all the spread of anti-Semitism.

I'd rather an anime about a German WWII tank be presented in context and that context includes the Nazi swastika. Judging history in the context of modernity is a false presentation of history. When was the last time conventional or social media outlets had a "warning: there will be swastikas and Roman straight-arm salutes directed towards Adolf Hitler in this WWII documentary, viewer discretion is advised" statement?
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Egan Loo



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:34 am Reply with quote
MJP wrote:
As a Jew I'm more offended that ANN feels the need to warn people that there'll be WWII iconography that may or may not be offensive. Tiptoeing around the atrocities of WWII on all sides - American internment of Japanese-American citizens, Japanese biowarfare experiments on POWs and the Rape of Nanking, the Comfort Women, Chinese Communist and Nationalist atrocities against civilians, etc. - doesn't help prevent intolerance, genocide, and above all the spread of anti-Semitism.

I'd rather an anime about a German WWII tank be presented in context and that context includes the Nazi swastika. Judging history in the context of modernity is a false presentation of history. When was the last time conventional or social media outlets had a "warning: there will be swastikas and Roman straight-arm salutes directed towards Adolf Hitler in this WWII documentary, viewer discretion is advised" statement?



The concern was not a swastika on a tank in context; as can be seen in the promo, the anime actually does not put swastikas on tanks. The concern was the swastika in the spoof of the modern Motion Picture Association of America's green rating title card. That's not in context or in a documentary.
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MJP



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:44 pm Reply with quote
So the satirical use of a swastika is offensive? That's what satire is meant to be. Unless ANN is linking white supremacist videos or presenting something that endorses derivatives of the National Socialist Workers Party that arose in Germany in the first half of the 20th century and was subsequently defeated in WWII, why even bother with a disclaimer? Why is there a mollycoddling of a Japanese dojin circle's preview video that uses a swastika?

My objection here isn't its use - Mel Brooks has it right, that we should satirize the hell out of Hitler and the Nazis so that way aliens from the future would wonder how the hell anyone ever took him seriously during his reign. Is there really any need to disclaim the use of the swastika? Without blowing this out of proportion, when does any other medium put up anything like "warning: satirical use of swastikas ahead?"

I am not the type to cry "political correctness!" wherein I'm about as liberal as it gets. I think there's nothing wrong with ensuring that there's allowances to be made for people who have been grossly misrepresented in culture, society, etc. But this is political correctness to the level that undermines trying to ensure people get fair shots and fair purview, and it's worthy of being a laughingstock at best, held up as an example of "this is the liberal media!" at worst.
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infiltration.cru



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:18 pm Reply with quote
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Such an immense amount of fail, I'm a little speechless right now.
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