Forum - View topicElfen Lied
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ignis
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Does anybody know when the DVD special for elfen Lied is released? the information i was given is suspected of fraudulence. and plus what's up with the whole Yuka and Kohta thing? is that cousinly live in japan accepted?
 but on the other hand it does make the show more spicy, at least to me. well u win some u lose some.
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msi435
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Zalis116
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From what I've seen, the DVD special for Elfen Lied has not been licensed by ADV, so it won't be released on any of the DVDs. You'll have to seek it out by other means, which we of course cannot discuss here.
From a certain site whose URL I cannot post here:
The cousin thing has been covered on other posts...it does seem to be far less taboo over there, so I don't think Yuuka and Kohta's relationship was exactly "scandalous" in the original context. Of course, after you've seen Sakura Diaries, Kanon, Utena, Koi Kaze, Please Twins, and Angel Sanctuary, you become desensitized to something as relatively tame as cousin incest. (Note: Some of these shows are more graphic/serious/disturbing than others.) |
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dormcat
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I've been explaining it repeatedly; this is the third time. In Japan, neither law nor local custom considers marriage between first cousins as incest. |
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hentai4me
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just think though.
would Lucy have been so murderously active if they lived in Europe? incest being taboo over here would mean that she would not have been jealous of Yuka and wouldn't have been so angry or feel so betrayed. interesting how culture can cause such a huge affect. |
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SirWence
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Sigh you beat me to the punch about the 1st cousins relationship not being incest..  (Do I get props for knowing it? lol) and yes the 14th episode OVA has yet to be licensed.
Well I wouldent blame Lucy's Dark side on culture spoiler[ And she really isn't even the killer so to speak that is Lucy2 ] .. blame it more on the cruelty of humanity itself spoiler[I'm not talking about Kouta saying its a boy when it was a girl and for the record he did that to not hurt her heh.. I'm speaking more to the killing the puppy type deal..] |
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abunai
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Let me just do away with a misunderstanding here.
People seem to think that, in the West, marriage between first cousins is incestuous and generally illegal. This is far from true. In fact, nearly all Western countries allow marriage between first cousins. The incest ban usually applies to siblings or relatives in direct lineal descent. Here are the relevant sections of the current marriage law of Denmark:
which translates as:
So, in Denmark, you can marry your first cousin. You can also marry your father's ex-wife or widow, assuming you can get the Minister of Justice to grant permission. And no, Denmark is in no way exceptional in this regard. Having said all that, the issue here isn't law, but social taboo. In most Western countries, Denmark included, marrying close to the limits of the incest legislation is considered socially unacceptable. Going almost off-topic, just for the heck of it... Incidentally, the origin of the word "incest" is in Latin, where it originally applied not only to sexual relations with family members, but to any form of illicit sex in contravention of divine law. Thus, for instance, sex with a Vestal virgin would be considered incest in ancient Rome. The penalty for this crime, btw, was to be thrown to one's death from the Tarpeian rock into the Tiber river. The Clodius scandal, a famous sex scandal and trial in ancient Rome, involved a not-very-gentlemanly fellow called Publius Clodius Pulcher, and Caesar's wife. This scandal is the origin of the phrase "Caesar's wife must be above reproach." The crime for which Clodius was tried was incest, because the situation involved Caesar's wife in her capacity of priestess. Later Christian writers, immured in the idea that incest meant sex with siblings, invented a new version of the trial for their histories of Rome, wherein Clodius had had sex with his sister (Clodia, better known as the pseudonymous Lesbia in the poems of her admirer Catullus). Here we see how a linguistic error can confuse matters for historians. - abunai |
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DKL
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I rememeber my cousin marrying another cousin to get her a GREEN CARD thing here in the states
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hentai4me
Posts: 1313 Location: England. Robin is so Cute! |
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SirWence
while yes the event that turned her inot a killer rather than just a brooding youngster was the killing of the puppy she found you could see that she was becoming more accepting of humanity in general(she questions her flippancy in saying she needs to kill someone new to live in their place, and she goes as far as to make Kouta promise to kill her if she does) while she was with Kouta. spoiler[upon hearing that he was going to the festival with his cousin she immediately asks if that cousin is a boy or a girl], which would in no way have even crossed a potential girlfirends mind if she were from a western culture. furhtermore spoiler[once they do arrive at the festival upon seeing Kouta hugging and soothing Yuka she assumes again that they care for each other,] which again would not really cross a westerners mind, it would just be a family thing, not an incestuous thing. so I believe that were she from a western culture the feeling that he had not really cared for her(and only been friends with her because she was a 'spoiler[strange looking animal]') and had instead cared for Yuka in a girlfriend/boyfriend kind of way wouldn't have been an issue. essentially if she were European she would not have felt the need to think Kouta loved someone else and not her. |
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