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TopGunman
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Will Ghibli ever create something badass like Ghost in the Shell and Akira?
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ikillchicken
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Well I for one would argue that Princess Mononoke is pretty badass. |
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writerpatrick
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When things are bad it's not the time to make something depressing and "realistic." When things are bad people want and need escapism.
I have a feeling that whatever he comes up with will blame man--and possibly America--for a natural disaster. |
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Beatdigga
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Of course he's going to blame America and humanity, he's a gaijin-phobic hippie. And we're the Great Satan. So I can ignore just like I have all of Ghibli's other stuff for the last 5 years. |
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Lizzie_B
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Saying Miyazakis a xenophobe is kind of ironic since he's friends with John Lasseter |
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Anymouse
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Are you an idiot who only watches stupid harem comedies, or do just have different tastes. And by the way, I have never once heard Miyazaki condemn America. I have heard him condemn the destruction of the environment, and condemn sexual perversion but never that. I have never got a chance to watch his movies but I love his commentary. And before we get in a cheer fest for Modern society, let me remind you it ain't all cake and cupcakes. Last edited by Anymouse on Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:03 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Big Hed
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And I'd say no argument is needed there! |
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Great Rumbler
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So I guess J.R.R. Tolkien was a gaijin-phobic, America-hating hippie as well? The Lord of the Rings explored the same ideas of man vs. nature and technology vs. nature as Princess Mononoke and Nausicaa did:
http://www.bookrags.com/research/tolkien-j-r-r-este-0001_0004_0/ |
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Surrender Artist
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Well, I guess that leaves the possibility that some people will be able to relax and watch it open. With so little revealed, all that I'm really irritated by so far is how tediously coy Toshio Suzuki is being and the whiff of arrogance and self-congratulation coming off of the phrase, "...he [Hayao Miyazaki] already predicted the current state of Japan during the planning stages." I think that we know too little about the project itself to make any judgements about it. I really should watch Princess Mononoke again. Last edited by Surrender Artist on Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Inutaihanyou123
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Unfortunately, that's the first thing i thought of when Suzuki mentioned Miyazaki's next work. As great as Miyazaki is, a lot of his mental processes are stuck in the 1940s. Hopefully he can overcome that generational barrier one day.
As only one example, Miyazaki infamously refused to visit the United States in 2003 to pick up an award he had won(an academy award) because according to him "i do not consult with a state that invades other countries" as if the political leadership of a country has anything to do with the civilians at large or even an award that you've won. Generalizations like that make me wonder if he even recognizes the deeds of his own nation. Not saying that the US doesn't have issues(we have a lot, and the military policy is only one part of that), but a little equal fairness in regards to humanity would go a long way towards me taking him seriously again Last edited by Inutaihanyou123 on Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:10 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Anymouse
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My thought processes are also "stuck in the 1940's" so I would rather people did not act like new automatically equals better. Many things have been lost in the process of modernization, and many admirable aspects of traditional society are on the way out today because of those advances. Many evils have been introduced as a result of modernization, so before we cheer our little society with it's arrogances we ought to seriously think about it's problems and possible solutions. I do think his statement about not coming here may have been over the top but I can understand why someone would not want to go through airport security. The following message from Great Rumbler makes a good point:
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Zin5ki
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Shock horror! A Ghibli film that won't enjoy mass appeal amongst child audiences? Were Miyazaki's cordial acquaintances at Disney not consulted beforehand? John Lasseter and his oh-so-commercially-fruitful bedfellows may have no choice but to opt for a mere limited North-American release! How could you, Hayao? John is your best friend in the whole world. He idolises you, he keeps a framed photograph of you on his bedside table, and yet you treat him like this? Last edited by Zin5ki on Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Inutaihanyou123
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Either one deals with the advancement of society or they are left behind. Humankind's advancement is as natural as the last generation's shift from their parent's and so on. The fact that the "evils of modernization" are so scary is mind boggling. Its called "adapting to new things". Its not simply about technology. Humankind also becomes more loose and free minded as they advance. Conservatism holds back innovative thinking. More often than not, the past is looked at with rose tinted lenses than anything else. It wasn't as peachy as they remember. |
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Anymouse
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Those statements and sentiments are also old ones, recited by many before any of us in this discussion were born.
I do believe in advancement and adaptation to change, but I am not sure we should assume that our current state represents a set of viable improvements. The Soviets believed they had created a New Civilization. It turns out to have been a disaster. I see no reason not to believe modern, industrial, consumerist, liberal, and democratic nations will not some day go down the same path and be replaced in their turn. Nothing lasts forever, including progress. |
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Penguin_Factory
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That could be interesting. Miyazaki is the kind of guy who always seems to have an opinion on something when he makes a movie, but so far I've never found any of those opinions particularly enthralling, especially since most of them boil down to "save the environment" and "hard work is important".
Why would you want them to? Nothing in the history of any of the main creative staff three indicates they'd be good at that. You might as well ask if Disney is ever going to start making gangster movies. |
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