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Apollo-kun
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PETA is like that friend who you think has noble intentions, but is so blatantly stupid and uninformed that they place all of those intentions in every wrong area imaginable. Except they're kind of mean, and support questionable things to justify their own flawed logic. And rely on shock value to make you care.
So they're more like depressed, self-aware cheerleaders in a backwater town than actual friends you may have. All jokes(?) aside, this is so ridiculous beyond belief that even giving it attention is a bad idea. Like many preposterous things PETA has presented, this should just be ignored and left to fail miserably. Oh, snap, by commenting I paid attention to it. Well, at least I tried. ![]() |
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Dumnerd
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RadicaLElly
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Agreed. I can't say I'm all that surprised that PETA's doing this. We're talking about an organization that euthanizes pretty much every animal it "rescues," including those that are perfectly healthy. It's not shocking at all to me that PETA would spend more time and energy worrying about the well-being of fictional tanuki than real animals. |
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mglittlerobin
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I should congratulate PETEAfor leveling up in stupidity. Why are they bothering about Mario when the Cabela games have been shooting virtual animals for much, much longer? I haven't heard about them protesting those games.
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ArsenicSteel
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PETA must pick their targets by having a blind-folded, drunk monkey throw darts at the entertainment section of the newspaper. I'm playing Skyrim as we speak and have spent hours killing all sort of animals, tanning their hides for leather, and making weapons/armor out of said hides for profit and personal use. Yet the best example of fiction that says it's okay to wear fur is Mario in a Tanooki-like costume.
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Keonyn
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People like these PETA idiots do nothing but make the rest of us with legitimate concerns regarding animal cruelty look bad. It's a freaking video game with growth shrooms, rideable dinosaurs, evil turtles and other completely ridiculous things. It's in no way a reference to reality and I highly doubt anyone but these oversensitive types will even think to see it as such. I just don't see kids running out to go skin animals to wear suits made of their flesh in order to gain super powers; or even being encouraged to go buy a fur coat by the game.
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Dumnerd
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TarsTarkas
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PETA is laughable. I am from the Hampton Roads area where PETA is headquartered.
PETA employees were caught dumping dead animals (cats & dogs), they killed in their mobile euthanasia vehicle, in local area dumpsters. Supposedly PETA was rescuing these animals from area shelters. It was news in the local media for weeks before and during the trial. So it makes PETA's extreme messages, at odds with their actions. |
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DTJB
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Okay PETA, I get it, you're desperately looking for attention. Now back the f*** off'a Mario!
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504NOSON2
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Okay, it's taking every fiber of will power within me to not begin individually and systematically deconstructing you all's poor, fallacious arguments. All I see is name calling and unjustified ad hominem attacks upon PETA, but no one is addressing the FACT that animal slaughtering for meat, clothing, and other miscellaneous non-essential products is immoral and morally indefensible. As a vegetarian and animal liberation activist, I think that utilizing one of highest-selling video game franchises to convey the unpopular reality was a great strategy. So they may be slightly strident in their discourse. Okay. But there's no arguing against most of their views.
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penguintruth
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Well, think of the innocent plants murdered every day for your salads. As Maddox once said: "For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three". |
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RestLessone
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While I don't support fur farms or cosmetic animal testing (as there are alternatives; medical testing is more a necessary evil), I can't say killing animals for food is immoral. It happens in nature all the time, and some of the most nature-loving people I've met are hunters. Just recently I had a discussion with one, and he displayed disgust at the people who take the head or antlers of a deer and leave the carcass. I don't support stopping the meat industry, just tightening restrictions and giving animals the best of care before they are humanely slaughtered. And I really don't see anyone defending fur farms here. Just PETA and their methods. Trust me; I'm huge on the environment and animal rights. It's part of my major. But I just can't support PETA as an organization. I'm happy with some of the end results, but their methods are...questionable, to say the least. And what they're doing now, with the whole "it was a joke!" thing, doesn't seem right. Even if they aren't lying, the least they could have done was make it obvious they weren't really attacking Mario. |
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504NOSON2
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In the 21st century, humans, primarily living in developed First World nations, killing sapient beings for food is not ethically defensible, mainly because there's a plethora of alternative options. Animals raised for food in the U.S. consume 90% of the soy crop, 80% of the corn crop, and a total of 70% of its grain. Those natural food staples could be used to virtually eradicate malnutrition. Instead, they use it to fatten up fowl, swine and cattle just to satisfy an acquired taste for mammalian flesh. Carnivores consume meat because that's the only source of energy evolution has allowed them. Plus, they lack the cognitive capacity to develop complex moral values, like humans. The meat industry contributes more to carbon emission(global warming) than the entire automobile sector(i.e. cars, planes, trains, etc). That's why I say the only time it's defensible, by humans, is in extreme conditions. The typical obese family of five piling up in the station wagon and heading to McDonalds or BK are not in extreme conditions (so to speak) ![]() |
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RestLessone
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Alternative energy systems need to be implemented regardless, and I'd like to see some specific stats from reliable sources that the industry leads to more carbon emissions than the entirety of the vehicle industry. All classes I've taken attribute automobiles to be the primary cause of emissions. And, actually, eradicating the industry and using the grain for human consumption will not fix human malnutrition. As natural omnivores, we have dietary needs that range beyond grains. Even without the use of pills and meats, they would require a variety of different vegetables and fruits to live healthy. Adding to that, there are people with nutritional needs that cannot be easily fulfilled by pills and vegetables; for them, meat is the best, if not only, option.
And...I don't think you know what sapient means. Sapient would imply that animals are sentient. Also, I really don't want to get involved in a meat vs. no meat debate. You're stuck in your beliefs, I'm stuck in mine. An Internet debate over the issue will not change anything, particularly when a large part of the debate relates to what we consider moral. Last edited by RestLessone on Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:03 am; edited 1 time in total |
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penguintruth
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We're never going to stop eating animals. It's just never going to happen. Especially if you expect us to eat horrible tasting plants (which at last taste, was most of them) instead.
Plus, you're already eating insect larvae in most foods, so congrats, you're not so vegan after all. |
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