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zawa113
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note I've seen both series, and I can't even remember the thing between Lelouch and Suzaku very well. L and Light on the other hand are a mix of mental battle and yaoi fanfic and I certainly remember being on the edge of my seat at all times. Group C-D Semifinal Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go Oh man, this is a tough one because whoever wins here, I'm voting for them next round. I feel like this should really be the finals, right here. Hikaru and Akira have been up against what I considered to be far lesser opponents since round one and they have finally met the rivalry who is, at the very least, their equal. For once, I wouldn't be sad to see either one go on as Basilisk is so far the only series that I think deserves to beat Hikaru and Akira if anyone does indeed deserve to. So this is not an easy decision, but neither one deserves to totally shut out the other, so I'm going to go for our Go playing duo one more time as I'm going to say I prefer the development into obsession over one that pretty well starts off at its max and doesn't get too much more intense over the series (to be fair though, it already starts off like, the most intense possible, it couldn't get more intense without going up to 12). But whoever goes on here deserves to win it all if you ask me. I find these two rivalries to be the most similar as they have the strongest obsession and the strongest feelings involved, which is partly why they both deserve to move on if you ask me and why I'm happy no matter who does (and why I'm having such a hard time determining which is better). Also, everyone now knows my vote for the finals, lol. |
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Aylinn
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note I'm not a fan of L vs. Light rivalry, as there is too much of ridicules logic in their game of wits, but even thought their predictions are ridicules, their rivalry is still better than the rivalry of their opponents. Group C-D Semifinal Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go I don't mind melodrama. Melodrama can be found in most of the anime, so I don't see it as a weakness. I'm voting for them, because I believe it is harder to make an interesting rivalry between Go players, as effective fight scenes, which usually appeal more to people and sell better, are out of question. I imagine that Go is the sort of game that most people would consider boring if they heard about it. That's why I think Hikaru no Go deserves credit for trying something more challenging and achieving some success. I consider Kouga vs. Iga clans to be worthy opponents, so whoever wins here, I'm going to vote for them in the Final. |
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Olliff
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Yep, I think that last round killed most of the top four's bracket. I know that my bracket pretty much exploded into failure that round. You can't really expect to do well if half of your predictions are in shambles, can you? However, it's nice to see a new face as the favorite to win the mini-game and even more so after performing a come from behind recovery. Ggultra will probably place, too. Don't know if he has before or not. Of the three regular winners, Key, mow and myself, I only see one of us placing in the top 3, and probably near the bottom of the top 3 at that. I could see A-B as a shut out, and I am still reeling from how off I was on C-D. Very hard for me to predict this time around. For C-D this round, no idea who's the favorite, but I already know who I am leaning towards. |
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Ggultra2764
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This is the first tournament where I've consistently placed among the top players for most of the tournament. In past tournaments, I'm lucky to have survived past the third and fourth rounds in having a chance at winning anything. I know I place second based on Dorcas_Aurelia's score calculations since my placement in the top 3 was guaranteed following the first half of the Quarter-Finals. It just comes down to you, Key or mow123 placing for third. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Mow got 3rd, beating Key out for the spot by just 1 point. Brackets C & D destroyed everyone. Unicorn_Blade got Kouga vs Iga right, Tris and Aylinn got Hikaru vs Akira right.
MediaFire decided to let me upload the spreadsheet today, so here are the results. Regarding late game shut-outs, unless there were some in the Craziest or Moe Tournaments, which I didn't follow, there haven't been any shut-outs in the semifinals or finals, and since after the Evilest Tournament, at least, there has only been 1 shut out after round 3 (In the Best Hero tournament, Shu Maritani beat Kenshin Himura in the quarter final 18-0). Section 9 was one vote from shutting out MITHRIL in the final of the Team Tournament (and had an 85% power rating at the end). Other notable late tournament blow-outs include Jinto and Lafiel over Sousuke and Kaname 19-4 in the semifinals of the Duos Tournament (losing the final against Christmas and Kurau), and Balsa winning a three-way semifinal match against Mugen and Guts 12-3-2 in the coolest tournament (losing in the finals to Spike). |
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Unicorn_Blade
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I'm so tired I could not even remember if I had voted already or not...
Anyways, here it goes. Group A-B Semifinal Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Light Yagami vs. L. I do not actually think Suzaku vs Lelouche was so totally misplaced here, I really enjoyed the rivalry. But it is not match for Light and L after all. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go[/quote] Kouga vs. Iga clans - I am thrilled to see they got so far and I do believe they do belong to the strict final of the tournament. It is not only about violence or exciting battles, but about the intensity of feelings (both love and hatred) that make the conflict interesting. I am going for the rivalry who kept me on the edge of my chair despite being able to figure out the outcome. |
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Tris8
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I got 1st in the minigame?!? Happy Dance! Im surprised though. In the second or third round I watched Basilisk because it was unexpectedly (unexpected for me) getting a lot of support, and as soon as I finished it I realized how much I had underestimated it and thought I was sunk
Group A-B Semifinal Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Light vs. L. There is no comparison between these two, Light vs. L is superior in every way. (see previous arguments) Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go[/quote] Very hard choice. These rivalries are pretty different, but Im going to give Kouga vs. Iga Clans the slight edge here, mainly because at least one ninja from each clan faces off in every single episode. Hikaru and Akira are always thinking about the other and scheming about how to get ahead, but they don't actually face off that much. Still, when Akira and Hikaru DO face off, I personally feel their battles are more intense but that isn't enough to tip the scale in their favor. |
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mow123
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Congratulations! I remember I had a similar feeling when the same thing happened to me. I think the score needed to win probably has about a 20-30 point variation and if I had to guess this one of the lower ones due to how unpredictable the latter half of the bracket was. Group A-B Semifinal Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Light vs. L. No contest. The Lelouch vs Suzaku has enough weaknesses to not compare to the iconic physiological battle of wits between L and Light. It's ever bit intense and the crown gem of the series. I wouldn't say the same about CG. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go Very hard choice. These rivalries seem very different, but I'm going to give Kouga vs. Iga Clans the edge based on the comments, clips, guide, and previous arguments. They seem like the more compelling choice and I may try to put Basilisk on my want to see list. |
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EmbraceMe
 Posts: 2017 Location: Growing old and jaded. |
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Light Yagami vs. L, Lelouch vs. Suzaku is underwhelming when compared to Light vs. L. All the arguments have been made already so I don't any additional information. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go[/quote] This is a tough choice... I wish both were on opposite sides so they could both go to the Finals but... I think I will vote for Kouga vs. Iga clans. I prefer hostile rivalries over growing semi-friendly rivalries. |
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ccdx
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Good to see Light Yagami vs. L making to the finals easily. I think when you take a good hard look at this rivalry, you see that they can beat any other pair/group out there. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go[/quote] I still prefer the in dept strategizing Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya rivalry over the bloody Kouga vs. Iga rivalry. They obviously won't win, but it's nice to see them get this far. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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Right now, it's a little lower than the median, and closer to the mean. The usual range is actually right around 200-205, with one a little higher, one lower, and one a lot lower. The difference between first and third this time is I tied for the smallest it's ever been. |
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Olliff
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass Light Yagami vs. L Seen both decision and the strength between these teams are so great its like day and night. Not only is the Death Note rivalry more engaging and intense, but it is also much more focused and multifaceted. The ideological differences are matched between rivalries. I think what really pushed Light and L over the edge is that the rivalry is the one focal point and reason why people watching the show, and why the show is so engrossing in the first place. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go The Hkaru/Akira clips are so underwhelming at this point, and Kouga vs. Iga clans has been sold so well that this seems like a clear cut decision. Also never have been a fan of the hot and cold strained friendship rivalries. Based on the descriptions and clips, the Iga Clans rivalry grabs my interest more and seems much more intriguing. Plus all the talk the rivalry is a part of a heart wrenching ending is the icing on the cake. |
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The Naked Beast
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Group A-B Semifinal
Light Yagami vs. L, Death Note vs. Lelouch Lamperouge vs. Suzaku Kurugi, Code Geass There is not much more I can say about the Death Note rivalry since everyone else has already said it. They got this far on the intensity and strength of their rivalry. My vote goes to: Light Yagami vs. L. Group C-D Semifinal Kouga vs. Iga clans, Basilisk vs. Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya, Hikaru no Go The game-based rivalry is more appealing since there is more at stake here than a title. Both players are putting their pride on the line to determine which one is the better player. My vote goes to: Hikaru Shindou vs. Akira Touya. |
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Key
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Round 6: Semifinals is now closed.
Only 14 votes this time, which I'm hoping is more indicative of the fact that these matches were never close than anything else: A/B Semifinal: Light vs. L crushes Lelouch vs. Suzaku, 14-0. C/D Semifinal: Kouga vs. Iga clans goes ninja on Hikaru vs. Akira, 11-3. This is, I think, the first time that a contestant has won in a sweep one round only to lose in a sweep the next round. Neither match was ever even remotely closed. Next round will be up as soon as I can get the Guide pages updated. |
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dtm42
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I was watching to see if it was going to get competitive. I only wanted to vote if it meant something.
I think we have two very strong finalists, looking forward to this week. |
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