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Cloe
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If your partner thinks of you as a "sex object" as a result of love-making, I have to say that's a very sad relationship... call me old-fashioned, but am I the only person in the world who thinks that a balanced, loving relationship is possible out of mutual respect for both partners?
I don't know if you fully understand what it's like being an independent female in a world filled with girls constantly selling themselves as sex objects (and even MORE infuriating, men creating and selling animated female sex objects) and men buying. Maybe if you did, you could understand why I lost my temper. But I guess that's irrelevant to this topic... And for someone as against chastising as you, you're sure doing a good job of lecturing me... Good thing for you, it's working.  After a bit of reflection, I realize that a more appropriate thing to say would have been “Congratulations for writing such chauvinistic and inappropriate things about women" instead of attacking the poster's integrity.
I apologize, kamiboy, for flying off the handle. |
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alpinequeen
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As long as we are on this ethical/fantasy/sex object thing, wouldn't a three-some with Ranma be interesting?
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kamiboy
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A "sex buddy" relationship is a fantasy that many men entertain. But it never really happens, so that is all it really is, just a fantasy.
OK. I think I understand now, what it was that you were so angry about. Females being made into sex symbols or objects is nothing new, really. Its has always been part of human society, and I doubt it will ever go away. Also, women are not the only gender to be treated this way. There are plenty of pretty boy models and actors doing the same, and lets not forget about binoshens and yaoi. But as I said earlier, men mostly don't mind being portrayed that way, so you don't hear much about it.
No prob. At least your response was a lot more civilized that some of the others *cough*Stevey boy*cough* flying off their handles. It’s really not so bad being called a worm. Sure, they are not the flashiest creatures in the animal kingdom, but they do serve a purpose. -- FDA Warning: Taking this person too seriously has proven to cause cancer in clinical trials |
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AHZ
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Okay, I will call you old-fashioned. but there's nothing wrong with that. Like I said, I respect your opinion--and I actually agree with you, to a point. All I'm saying is that women like to drool over guys too, and not because they think the guys have a great personality and good character. A lot of women just wanna bang(yes boys and girls, I said "bang") and move on with their lives. My point is it goes both ways. Of course men do this a lot; and women do it just as much, which I don't have a problem with.
If a woman is comfortable with selling herself as a sex object then it shouldn't be a problem. It doesn't make them any less intelligent/capable. There just taking advantage of certain aspects of who they are. If that's what they want to do, then more power to them.
...Sounds like you've been holding that question for a long time. Last edited by AHZ on Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Steventheeunuch
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Just because it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to anyone else. |
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kamiboy
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How would that work exactly? 2 guys and girl Ranma, a guy a girl and boy Ranma, or maybe just a guy a girl and a s*itload of buckets full of hot and cold water? Whatever you meant I'm sure there is a Doujin out there giving its suggestion on how it might go down. -- FDA Warning: Taking this person too seriously has proven to cause cancer in clinical trials Last edited by kamiboy on Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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kamiboy
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Fair enough. It was my understanding that it was at best a very rare occurrence. But then again I haven't been worried about things like that since my late teens, so I could be wrong. -- FDA Warning: Taking this person too seriously has proven to cause cancer in clinical trials |
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AHZ
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I was just gonna say the same thing. It happens quite frequently. A lot of people are interested in that kind of arrangement. P.S. we are so friggin off topic that it's ridiculous...but it is mildly entertaining. |
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Steventheeunuch
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It's a reasonable, non-flaming discussion so I don't think anyone is really going to take arms against it. |
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kamiboy
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Are you seriously kidding me? For a guy as lazy as me that kind of arrangement would be like eating your cake and still have it. Maybe I should get back into the game....... ah screw it, I'm too lazy. Gotta get back to watching Hunter x Hunter. Its amazing how many similarities it has with Naruto, maybe I should make a thread discussing that. -- FDA Warning: Taking this person too seriously has proven to cause cancer in clinical trials |
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AHZ
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LOL... Ah yes, anime vs. nookie: one of the most important decisions a young man has to make in his lifetime. |
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Mexicanime86
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Wow, this it turning into quite a lil thread. I just have to say that the only reason that a lot of men get more heat is because female sex objects get pushed more in the ads that we see every day, even though there is the fair share of male objects(myself included), so this causes more protests from the ladies, but us guys, we just don't care too much, as long as our girl, or guy (trying to be fair here), isn't cheating on us with that model.
On the real topic now, if you really have a problem with the way some folks fantasize, then though luck. There isn't much you can do about it, so lets just each enjoy anime in our "special" way. |
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alpinequeen
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Hmmm. That would be me...and Ranma...and some hot an cold water. Imagine the possibilites. And I can't wait until Jimmy Neutron grows up!
I used to have a thing for Bugs Bunny years ago, but then I found out he was a lot older than I was...and still is. Of course the incident that ended the whole thing was when I saw him wearing female rabbit clothes. But, still, he's kind'a cute, and has this forceful, yet gentle manner. Although, he was very alluring in lipstick and heels. |
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The Frankman
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The scary thing is people have been saying that about The Powerpuff Girls for 7-8 years...then it happened. http://bleedman.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=0 I'm trying to leave for class, and this topic now has made me 20 minutes late because I can't stop laughing. From the Rei Ayanami crap to the idea of a "tryst" with Ranma (HOT WATER!wait2minutesCOLD WATER!wait2minutesHOT WATER!  ), a read a scientific survey that stated men think about sex 150 times a day. Pure crap, I think about it only 75 times a day. Does that make me half a man? 
Okay, okay. Back on topic, when Japanese anime starts reducing the number of scantily clad women in positions of demurity (is that a word?) and actually starts drawing young girls with kneelength skirts, you'll find the number of messageboard fantasies start going down. Now I am REALLY late. 
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Aaron White
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Just a quick comment about "political correctness." The problem with PC is when it becomes a means of squelching people, censoring opinions. Cloe wasn't doing that; she was objecting to an opinion, not demanding that it be squelched. She was engaging in dialogue, not demanding that it be shut down. And since she did so she and Kamiboy have been able to make piece and come to terms with one another.
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