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Shelf Life - Summer Kamp

One-Eye wrote:

Quote: and somehow almost all of the girls are total lesbians, and they actually use the word “lesbian” and are totally aggressive. So? Is there something wrong with the word lesbian? Or that they are aggressive lesbians as opposed to having sweetness and flowers and sparkles all the time? Maybe, its part of the joke? Yea, its kinda of a tired one in anime, but its par for the course.

It seems like I've seen other shows where they never use the word "lesbian" and instead say things like "She's that way" or "likes girls" without putting the actual label on a character. I can't recall characters using the word lesbian in Kasimasi a couple weeks ago, but I could be wrong.

My biggest gripe though is that the rest of the series has yet to be animated. Although there is more than enough conclusion in what was produced, the fact that there are at least 3 unadapted novels makes me a sad panda.

configspace wrote:

Quote: Kämpfer is surprisingly close to being softcore hentai compared to the average ero-comedy. I'm not sure why some people are so quick to label something as softcore. Just because some of the girls like Shizuku are aggressive in trying to (playfully) seduce Natsuru does not mean ZOMG-borderline-hentai

That comment made me raise an eyebrow too. Hey, I felt a rental shelf rating was more than fair, but to say it's close to softcore levels? I guess if you think any title that has fanservice is close to softcore, then I can see where you're coming from, but I don't really recally Kampfer having nudity scenes. ...there better be some naked boobs being shown, and not in the "covered up, just about shown, but not quite"

Oh, and Erin, what do you think of the Sam Adams Harvest Ale? That's the first and only pumpkin beer I've tried, and I quite enjoyed it, so I was wondering how you felt it stacked up against others.

I seem to remember nipples being shown, which doesn't usually happen in comedy, even if there's a hot springs episode. I tried to look up a more comprehensive objective definition of "softcore" but haven't found one that seems reasonable to refer to for television. I also hesitate to screencap every moment that I'd qualify as "almost softcore," (which is all that I said), because it would be a waste of time, I'd feel like a pervert (more so), and besides, I already sent the disc back to the rental company.

That's why the final scene of episode 39, which represents the climax of both the third arc and the entire series to that point, is widely-regarded as one of the all-time-great anime scenes.

I also hesitate to screencap every moment that I'd qualify as "almost softcore," (which is all that I said), because it would be a waste of time, I'd feel like a pervert (more so),

All right, I had the impression that the uncomfortability in Kampfer came from how nearly all of the women are lesbians. Well, I haven't seen it, but that was what I thought reading the review.

A situation like that, without any explanation for it, would need a major suspension of disbelief, at least for me, since what's supposed to be a minority is suddenly so prevalent it's assumed in a person unless pointed out otherwise. It'd be like if everyone was inexplicably left-handed (I am left-handed, but I'd feel uncomfortable the same way), like in The Muppets.

Did my review make it seem like I was weirded out that most of the characters were lesbians? Because that didn't bother me.

Kampfer is such an exaggerated comedy that I took it they were playing up the stereotype that lesbians go to all-girl schools, which comes up in several other titles. Because everything is over-the-top in Kampfer, almost every single girl in the girls' school is a lesbian and they're blatant about saying so.

A little bit or the representation of lesbians since you reference your previous review of Maria Holic that turned you off.

Just a question did they use the word lesbian in Japanese or only in the subtitles? Was the strong proclamations of lesbianism that you allude to the work of the translator?

Just to double check; you're uncomfortable, right? Did my review make it seem like I was weirded out that most of the characters were lesbians? Because that didn't bother me.

Kampfer is such an exaggerated comedy that I took it they were playing up the stereotype that lesbians go to all-girl schools, which comes up in several other titles. Because everything is over-the-top in Kampfer, almost every single girl in the girls' school is a lesbian and they're blatant about saying so.

If there was no explanation for it, I'd be uncomfortable. I didn't know such a stereotype existed that lesbians would go to all-girl schools, or at least that there'd be a concentration of them there. ...
So it seems Kampfer requires me to understand that this public image exists at all for me to not be bugged out watching it.