Forum - View topicsemi OT: Suprnova shut down
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v1cious
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http://www.dehavilland.co.uk/webhost.asp?wci=default&wcp=EntertainmentStoryPage&ItemID=7368366&ServiceID=8&filterid=345221&searchid=234672&category=1
i don't like where there this is going. i fear the fansub sites are coming somewhere down the line. Last edited by v1cious on Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:38 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Nagisa
Moderator
 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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Meh, Suprnova dealt in many things "worse" than fansubs, which is why I think it was shut down. No real loss though, as far as I'm concerned; damn site only worked less than half the time anyway. |
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CyberSilver
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Oh Well then. We don't exactly have a right to complain since they are Illegal after all. Not to say I don't DL anime. 90% of the people who say they havn't or don't are lying. But that doesn't change the fact that it is against the law. So, if they go, I won't be holding a grudge.
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halostryke
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all they did was host a public tracker, whether that is illegal or not that is up 4 debate. |
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cyrax777
 Posts: 1825 Location: the desert |
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actly suprnova was manly a collection of links not a tracker.
I think they just bowed out gracefully before it hit the fan. well no matter theres plenty of others around for those who know were to look. |
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the_soultaker
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Yeah, and i'm sure your'e one of 'em.  It was obvious that this site would be the first on Hollywood's S-List,since the big crackdown on torrent sites. The way i see it, it's just the begining, so for those of you who frequent the Fansub torrents,enjoy it while you can because Major distro comps like ADV are joining in on the "hostile takeover". *looks over heartbroken co-worker's cubicle* 
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Arkard
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I am actually afraid where this is going.
Fansubs are my only source of anime. I literally cant get them any other way. Suprnova is not a big loss becase there still is DC++, IRC and AnimeSuki. I just hope that SN wont be the first step to closing all other major torrent sites. |
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radicaledward
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Slashdot.org had a more detailed artical about what happened. It is doubtful that we will ever get a full story as to what happened, but the bandwidth costs for the site, coupled with other factors may have cuased them to bow out. Also, it should be noted that the RIAA/MPAA don't have much influence outside of the United States, and most of the .torrent sites are located on servers outside of the US.
EDIT: Slashdot.org just posted a follow up artical about the shutdowns. Last edited by radicaledward on Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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elniro
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I nearly cried when i found out suprnova had shut itself down
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kainzero
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i doubt fansub tracker places will be shutdown, because suprnova (as well as other BT sites) were being threatened by the MPAA... Motion Picture American Association or some crap.
the key word is AMERICAN =P |
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radicaledward
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The long and short of it is that suprnova shut down because the main admin for the site decided that it was too much of a hassle to maintain, and it wasn't worth risking legal troubles. It should be noted that most of the .torrent tracker sites are not based in the US and therefore are not subject to US laws. However, alot of them are being shut down for violating local laws that they are subject to. For example, one site had a PayPal donate button on the site, which under Finnish would mean that the owners of the site were profiting from the distribution of copyrighted material, and they were shut down for that reason. |
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kainzero
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well, your link said
oh, and the other article linked to FAQs indicating that both the RIAA and MPAA were involved in taking worldwide action to shutdown torrent and eDonkey sites. hmm. |
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Onizuka666
Posts: 266 Location: U.K |
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I understand why you are concerned Arkard, but your position in Poland highlights why Suprnova is not the end but the beginning of a problem.
The way I see it the world outside america is very different and not every nation is as rich enough to buy anime DVDs, or have as much freedom to buy it at all. Some poorer nations don't have TAN etc. This is the reason why all fire sharing will always exist no matter who or what is closed voluntarily or shut down by force. RIAA and MPAA know that they will never conquer piracy online, but they can try to make it harder for pirates. The world has become one again through the net. It's only a matter of time before another file sharing ap appears to haunt them again, this is far from over and will continue so long as they try to fight the way people want to share and consume information. We want tv/music and movies online which we can access them at our leisure for a price. They can never say they won't make money, just think if you could see 90% of the best films in a year online as well as going to the flicks with friends for others. The more films we watch the more money hollywood gets, getting old films online for a price is the first step to this. Then tv and music archives (note: the BBC are looking to do this with old tv series so that's a start, so all you people out there that wonder what we brits watch you'll be able sample for a price) to stop them gathering dust when they can be making money. I have to say that I see tv series as less of a problem because they always come in boxsets eventually and are always much sweeter that way. But if old/new series were online and for others who don't have the luxuries we love like DVD etc there might be less bootlegs and piracy. I suppose the main problem with all of this is a system of payment that everyone can accept (not everyone has a credit card) worldwide, and the fact that some people don't have money for such things when they have to eat, a free alternative will always attract the way it will always be offered somewhere. That can't be helped no matter how hard anyone works. I don't think anime is gonna be in that league they due to it's unique position of foreign product and niche fanbase. The japanese know that if they all turned their back on fans totally a huge potential anime/manga bubble could burst killing a market that is doing well. Anime is also not as popular as hollywood movies but that could change one day. All we have to do is prepare for it. The day will come when code and files can't be tracked as easily and the whole thing will just go further underground. Bottom line file sharing is here to stay and like ">[SPAM] etc is part of global net pop culture, get used to it illegally and/or give us a legal option to access content the way we want to, when and how we want to. |
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Kazuki-san
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Indeed, however the only fansub groups that have received threatening letters from American anime companies are ones that are carrying licensed series. That is completely within their right. They can't, however threaten sights that carry content that they have no license or copyright to. As far as American being a keyword, it all depends on who holds rights and where, where the files are being distributed to, and if the country the fansub group (or tracker or anything else for that matter) belongs to the WTO or has signed the Berne Convention or any of a dozen other such treaties, which allows the American companies to enforce their copyrights or licensing agreements outside of the US. |
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Fenrir
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well also don't forget countries like Canada have told the RIAA and MPAA to how shall we say bite me. File sharing is legal in Canada they are trying to overturn it but Canada says if you want to protect it encrypt the damn thing and come here with some solid proof that file sharing is making you poor. So if a lot of file sharing places start hosting their torrents etc. in places that have legalized file sharing then they companies aren't gonna be able to do much. Also all this is gonna do is drive file sharing and fansubs underground again. I mean I've been a part of the fansub scene since vhs tapes. Its here for good there not gonna be able to stop it the more they crack down the more things just change and the harder it will be to catch people after they learn how to get around all the new issues around fansubbing, piracy etc. etc.
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