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ANNCast - Operation Podcast Drop

omoikane: About the only issue I take with your post is your assertion that we're goons/4channers, or somehow born from the culture. This isn't actually true at all. None of us post in ADTRW (or even read it, for that matter), and the only time any of us ever venture into /m/ is largely to shake our heads at how bullheaded most of them are (yes, even compared to us). Elitism does not automatically equal 4chan, and self-flagellation does not automatically equal SA. We're no stranger to Internet controversy, but we're not as easy to profile as many might think.

EmperorBrandon: It's a show based on the premise of 10-year-olds drinking semen, for Christ's sake. Offer to watch that with your girlfriend and tell me how much action you get as a result. Just because a show like that isn't outright pornography doesn't mean it's not offensive to most of the five senses.

EmperorBrandon: It's a show based on the premise of 10-year-olds drinking semen, for Christ's sake. Offer to watch that with your girlfriend and tell me how much action you get as a result. Just because a show like that isn't outright pornography doesn't mean it's not offensive to most of the five senses.

As you are a fan and reader of Colony Drop, I'll try and make this as simple as I can

God, I sound so condescending...

basically says that their usage of the word "Japtoons" is deliberately designed to offend anime fans.

But for me, I hate the word "Japtoons" simply because it carries a racist term within it

and it was purposedly made to enrage anime fans.

Some fans, when they think of "cartoons", only think of juvenile Saturday morning fare like GI Joe, Thundercats or Looney Tunes, not adult like anime is perceived to be.

If the word "anime" starts to lose its meaning, why not simply talk about Japanese animation or Japanese cartoons instead of using lazy and stupid sounding combined abbreviations? If words like japtoon or japanimation sound stupid to me, whose first language isn't English, I can see why native English speakers tend not to use them.

The problem is that, going by the tenets of free speech, while we might not be able to try and censor Colony Drop in any way, we are free to criticise them for their faults whenever we see them. That's how free speech works, especially on the Internet.

Spark That Bled wrote:

But for me, I hate the word "Japtoons" simply because it carries a racist term within it

Let's pause here for a second. This I can understand - you don't like the term because it is rooted in a racist term. I'll admit, my sense of humor is skewed.

Spark That Bled wrote:

and it was purposedly made to enrage anime fans.

But I guess this is what I don't get. People are so immersed in their hobbies that they can't take a joke about them? I've been an anime fan for many years and I believe that you mentioned you were, too. And it's cool to have a serious discussion about anime but why get up in arms about some self-deprecating humor because some basement dwelling neckbeard may be offended by it?

Want to know how to piss off over-sensitive, irrational anime fans? Just refer to anime as cartoons. It's easy, technically accurate, and carries no racist aftertaste!

Animation, cartoons, anime... it's all the same thing. Can't we just use one universal term?

I am amused by "oriental video animation" and have always loved the cheesiness of "Japanimation" (let's call US-based stuff "Americartoons!").

EmperorBrandon: It's a show based on the premise of 10-year-olds drinking semen, for Christ's sake. Offer to watch that with your girlfriend and tell me how much action you get as a result. Just because a show like that isn't outright pornography doesn't mean it's not offensive to most of the five senses.

I'm kind of amazed that people find these guys all that abrasive. I thought they came across as relaxed and affable in the podcast, but maybe my own admittedly blunt sensibilities are just more in line with theirs.

I feel there's a stigma against adult males liking any cutesy cartoon with little girls regardless of how innocent.

Unless you are pro-racism.

I don't quite understand how the nexus between a racist term, hobbies, oversensitive sub-surface neckbeardian people(doesn't sound like a compliment to me) and and your sense of humor that really makes it ok to use the racist term.

On the others, well, I don't necessarily disagree entirely. I feel there's a stigma against adult males liking any cutesy cartoon with little girls regardless of how innocent. I'm not claiming Astarotte's Toy is a "pure and innocent" series, but it's not particularly nefarious. From what I've seen, it's focused more on family relationships and friendship than anything sexual.

It's all about intent and CD's intent was humor. I found the term kinda funny, racist or not. No matter how involved I am in a hobby, I can still joke (and take a joke) about it.

The comments about neckbeards is related to people who get upset because people call anime cartoons. It's not related to the epithet.