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Blood-
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@ Zin5ki - I appreciate your willingness to attempt a less convoluted writing style. However, I respectfully note that there should be no conflict between clarity and conciseness. Quite the opposite.
In any case, there is nothing in your points that I particularly disagree with. So let me leave you with a hypothetical question: would you feel comfortable knowing that an individual who was interested in sexualized lolicon (as distinct from the innocent, cute lolicon) had unsupervised access to children? I wouldn't. I understand that such an individual, despite the sexualized lolicon interest, may be just as trustworthy as an individual who didn't share that interest, but where children are involved I prefer to err on the side of caution. |
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mangamuscle
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Let me share a little life experience on the subject. In real life lolicon predators come in two modalities. The one that keeps it to himself (so you have no way of knowing beforehand he might do something to your kids and might mistake him for a nurturing personality that does not mind having to hassle with the little devils) or the one that speaks so openly about it that you either believe he is joking or he makes you believe it is the kids inciting sexual behavior out of him. I do not have kids but I know about one such lolicon predator that still wanders local comics conventions. In the end prejudice and laziness are the real enemy, it is wrong to ostracize people just because you do not fully understand his likes and dislikes and neither you should think some people are safe because you see nothing wrong with them. |
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einhorn303
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Would you feel comfortable knowing that an individual who was interested in Grand Theft Auto had unsupervised access to his local gun store? Anyways, the majority of those who commit sex crimes against minors aren't pedophiles, but rather, just horrid people who take advantage of the powerlessness of minors. Last edited by einhorn303 on Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:54 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Blood-
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What is the point of posing one question to answer another? If you'd like to have a discussion about the potential negative influence of violent video games on people, by all means start a thread up. We are discussing sexualized lolicon here - but I guess I understand your desire to divert attention from that. But to respond to your tangent: I don't believe playing a violent video game is as suggestive about a person's capacity for violence as somebody's capacity for pedophilia if they enjoy sexualized lolicon. Hundreds of million of people all around the world of all ages and backgrounds play violent video games. The market for sexualized lolicon is significantly smaller and enjoyed by a much more homogeneous group of people. Last edited by Blood- on Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:57 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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einhorn303
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It's the same logic. "If a person has fantasies about taboo act [X], one should assume they'll commit taboo act [X]." If the logic is faulty when the taboo act is massacring innocents with firearms, the same logic should be fault when the taboo act is having sex with children. |
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Blood-
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einhorn303, see my edited post above with respect to why I don't believe your analogy holds up.
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enurtsol
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They may also be unwilling not because of morality but because of legal consequences if they get caught.
Some true lolicons may not believe having a mutual intimate relationship with children to be child abuse. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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thoughts are thoughts it's the will power to hold back and not act or have the sense not to. There is difference between reality and fiction after all in all senses, i just feel like I am adding fuel to the fire now.. I will say this I do have a 4 year old nephew and I love him deeply but if anyone and I do mean ANYONE where to hurt him in that way I would personally cut off there nut sac, drain it and force them to eat what's left over, watch them puke it up and die. I am dead serious on this this is the only defense I can give. The only other one I suppose is that Japan's rape per captia is less than half that of the united states, so I am not to sure to be honest with you but rape and child molestation are 2 different things. |
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agila61
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OTOH, I wouldn't feel comfortable that a fan a Bambi who cries when Bambi's momma dies has unsupervised access to his local gun store. I'm just not comfortable with that whole unsupervised access to a gun store scenario. |
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enurtsol
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There are a lot of unreported rapes because of the family shame aspect, but it'll still be lower than the U.S.'s. Then again, there are more "molestations" that don't quite qualify as rape (though some would say otherwise) like voyeurism sports, chikan, underwear thievery, etc. A lot of J-birds are too shy and just take it like a mannequin for fear of standing out like a crooked nail. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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well ehh god this thread is more derailed than one on a "chan" board but hmm stealing panties=molestation really?? If the are around the same age i don't think so..but why not buy some out of one of the many wonderful vending machines. I do know that in some rural parts the age of consent is still 13 but in most prefectures if not all it's 18, also a girl can not get married until she is 16 and a guy until he is 18.. which makes no damn sense either... gAHHAHAHHAA ... i am losing my mind on this listen there one thing japan did use do though that made lolicon look like nothing and that junior av "adult videos".... some times i hate the net I really do......that's it...If anyone needs I will be playing clannad |
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Scormio
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A lot of you seem to be acting on first impressions. Why don't we all watch the show before categorizing it as some loli-fetish trash?
Then again, most of you probably won't 
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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It's the net, people feel more free to express themselves openly online I agree but that's what happens. To be fair as of now I am more worried about more important things. |
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enurtsol
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Don't ask me. Ask the J-birds whose panties got stolen off the veranda. 
That's what happened with the Astroboy movie. Many people were criticizing that Astro wasn't naked in the early trailers (turns out there's a good reason for it in the movie), but they didn't even bother watching it when it actually came out. |
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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okay can i just ask one thing then i am out for the night why in strike witches do people complain so much in sense it's the same thing as astro boy. Why is there such a divide there?? I mean astro flew around with rockets on his legs, in his briefs/underwear and lived with an older man <_< i can make this sound more messed up if I want to, but why is when girls do it's bad? I just don't get if where "suppose" to be equal then who gives a shi* I don't... rant over... also i don't think I have the balls to ask some girl why her panties where stolen, some feeling violated and molested are 2 different things but i guess it goes back to their mind set....Christ I need a life. |
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