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EmbraceMe
 Posts: 2017 Location: Growing old and jaded. |
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Well, hopefully it will have English translations. Though I don't read manga much anymore, I believe a legal site that streams manga would be a nice a idea. |
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timesteel
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this is a pretty good idea kinda like hulu for manga
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Cutiebunny
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10 points for Akamatsu. It seems that the only way for US distributors to win this battle is to create a website where people can, for free, read whatever manga they choose with the US companies making revenue from whatever ads were featured on their site. |
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jmaeshawn
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At least these guys are smart enough to know not to waste their time and money trying to stop the metaphorical boulder that's rolling down the mountain.
It's gotten so big now that can't be stopped... So just make a new, and better way around it. 
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enurtsol
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Which may not come or come too late, in which case they're S.O.L. 
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configspace
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It isn't just ero (or BL) stuff that's rejected. His own stuff would be rejected if it had any nudity. Likewise why some titles on CR also aren't available through their ipad app. Both Kindle and Android allow it--although you are at Amazon's mercy with Kindle (and they have removed controversial content before, even while allowing others through) but it's certainly not the case with Android since there's no central authority anyways. So IMO his conjecture won't hold. Rather it'll be exactly like the guy who tweeted back:
especially given that Android has already surpassed iPhone. and publishers like Kodansha won't have 30% of their non-ero submitted titles alone rejected or requiring censorship. |
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Juhachi
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Why don't more people listen to Akamatsu? Oh, right. Because when these companies hear the word "free", they freak out and sue 1337 "offenders". Also, I'm pretty sure they don't realize that if they went with the ad-revenue website model, they probably wouldn't have to print as many copies per manga, so they'd get higher returns from physical copies sold, and still get big bucks from the ads. It's win-win, and yet they're either too slow or too unwilling to realize it.
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enurtsol
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There are no big bucks from ads anymore (that market went down the drain), unless ya don't pay for content.
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Penguin_Factory
 Posts: 732 Location: Ireland |
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They're not getting "big bucks" from ads. That's why Crunchy Roll gets people to pay a subscription fee. As much as everyone wants the legitimate distributors to give them manga and anime for free, that's probably just not possible. Personally, I would welcome an iTunes-like service where you could pay for manga by the chapter (I believe such a thing was mentioned in one of the recent ANNcasts). I'd be willing to spend money on a service like that as long as there was a reduction in price from the physical medium. |
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RAmmsoldat
 Posts: 1261 Location: North wales coast |
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And i personally will continue to buy manga in its physical form. The fear i have about digital content is that one day they place you bought from will shut up shop and then what, you wont be able to read your manga that you paid for. To me thats like buying a book that will one day randomly set itself on fire.
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Charred Knight
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The amount of money for ads is so small that there's no way you can make switching to an ad based service even close to profitable, you would lose tens of millions and destroy the american manga industry. As mentioned most of the money Crunchyroll gets comes from subscription.
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evil_kenshin
Posts: 40 Location: Australia |
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but it is also quiet cheap for what it is $6 a month for watching an unlimited amount of anime (I personally don't care about the drama's on crunchy so only have a subscription for the anime). they also split this fee with the publishers/developers so what crunchyrolls cut would be could be actually quiet small (perhaps $1-$3 out of a $6 subscription). so the adds would have to help in some way otherwise they would be charging alot more for their subscriptions since they are doing more than breaking even with their expenses. though I agree just having adds on its own will not cover the expenses (but I disagree with Penguin_Factorys idea of a pay per chapter ; i'd rather similar to crunchyroll a pay per month scheme) |
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Paploo
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Funimation's Lance did say on an anime3000 podcast this week that their streams pay for the basic cost of the license [w/profit coming from dvd's released later on].
Though I think everyone looks to be concentrating on Akamatsu's attempts to monetize online manga [which is a good thing], and overlooking the fairly harsh things they have to say about piracy, and fans who support or participae in piracy [posted about this on the Manga forum] . Important to take both parts of the conversation into consideration when discussing it. |
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Moomintroll
 Posts: 1600 Location: Nottingham (UK) |
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The fewer books in a print run, the higher the manufacturing cost of each unit, which reduces profits. And there are no "big bucks" from online ads unless you're Google - they'd be lucky to cover their costs. So it's not that they're " too slow or too unwilling" to recognise a win-win, it's that they're astute enough to recognise a lose-lose. |
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mglittlerobin
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I wouldn't say that you can't make money from Ad revenue using scanlations, look at OM, before they shut down they were the most popular scanlation aggregator, how much money do you think they made with all the traffic they got.
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