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Jariten
Company Representative
Posts: 180 Location: Here and there |
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I've been working at TAF for three years, and I have to say:
This certainly is big news, but it should be noted that the manga publishers have typically had a smaller presence at TAF than the anime production companies and TV networks do. In Japan, the two industries - anime and manga - have a bit more distance between then than they do here. The decision of the publishers will impact the fair - perhaps by way of the relationship that manga industry groups have with committees at the production companies - but... ...I'm pretty sure that TAF will try to press on despite this. Now if Studio Pierrot, Toei, or one of the big networks - TV Tokyo, Fuji TV, NTV, etc. - were to cancel their booths over this - that would cause the organizers to panic. They buy the most booth space at the fair, and without their sponsorship and their displays driving traffic, the fair will suffer. Not to mention that - as Egan mentioned - the ordinance hasn't even been up for vote yet. Anyone else who has been to TAF before want to chime in? |
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Reaper gI
Posts: 299 Location: UK |
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It's not being oposed by the DJP, it's going to pass. They ammended it to add an artistic merit clause of some kind. [translated source] http://twitter.com/dankanemitsu/status/13249835423506432 How many anime are not bassed on a manga/novel. They are pulling their properties, not just not attending themselves. The 'shopped poster should ilustrate the point fairly well http://twitpic.com/3elscd |
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Sunday Silence
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No, he has a bitchin' sound truck. Guess who else has sound trucks? |
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The Mad Manga Massacre
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Are you sure that the DJP is not opposing the bill? |
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Sacto0562
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Watch the Tokyo Anime Fair get boycotted by the big animation studios in Japan and within two years it will be replaced by an even more popular fair in either Kyoto or Osaka. Why not Kyoto or Osaka? Because both cities are easily reachable by train or road, just getting there is not an issue, and there is a very thriving manga culture in the Kansai region of Japan. |
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animefan1238
Posts: 301 Location: Ma |
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Why fight something that is part of ones culture? I know they are trying to do what THEY think is right for the future of Japan but restricting the purchase/rent of material is only going to be more intriguing. They will wonder why a certain peice of manga/anime/game has been labeled "sexually lude" or "socially wrong". It's like the shiny red button that says "DO NO PUSH". Someones going to push it and the fall out is not going to be good.
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scchan
Posts: 143 Location: Exeter, UK |
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If I have not mistaken from news release:
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20101211-00000006-mai-soci The Japan Democratic Party members (current ruling party at the national level, and largest faction in the city council) in Tokyo city council has voiced the support of the motion, and there are now enough votes to pass the motion. Of course, things may still change before the vote (politics is politics)... and the city council will vote on the motion on the 15th. |
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Emerje
Posts: 7390 Location: Maine |
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The governor of Tokyo is chairman of a major business expo and under his leadership (and because of it) a large chunk of the industry is boycotting the event. If that doesn't warrant a vote of no confidence in him and his policies then nothing will. Emerje |
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samuelp
Industry Insider
Posts: 2242 Location: San Antonio, USA |
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The location of the fans is irrelevant to the location of the fair. All that matters is that it is located in the city where the buisiness headquarters are located, and that's Tokyo. Go ahead and name all the anime and manga companies who are based in Kyoto and/or Osaka: Kyoto Animation. Okay, good, there's one. Now try and name another. |
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SteelyMag
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Can i ask something stupid? Does the government have any pull and/or control over these TV stations? It makes me wonder if the networks are not pulling out simply because they are somewhat government controlled. Could the government just say, "Hey, don't pull out or we'll cut your sponsors and funding, HA!" or something to that effect? |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
Posts: 3498 Location: IN your nightmares |
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The government knows its place when it comes to things that could impact the market and consumers negatively. This gives broadcasters and studios freedom to participate in an event or not, because removing that freedom or penalizing them for a certain stance on a political issue like this will impact consumers and then widespread chaos will break out. Hopefully they are sensible enough to prevent that from happening. |
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Aothan
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proven definitively or satisfactorily demonstrated ? I'm sure that at least from Bandura onwards most studies into the relation(s) between media and behaviour have sufficiently indicated an increased predisposition to violence (thoughts, expectations, associations, behaviours etc). |
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Sacto0562
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I'm sorry, but this situation is getting to the point that I really can see the major animation studios and possibly Asahi Broadcasting, Fuji TV, NTV and TV Tokyo all seriously considering boycotting the 2011 Tokyo Anime Fair. All the major manga publishers have already pretty much boycotted this fair, and the manga industry is WAY bigger than the anime industry in Japan. And the people of Osaka and Kyoto will more than welcome a replacement fair with open arms. |
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Harafan
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Where the fair is located is almost as irrelevant. Not 100%, but close. If there are deals to be made at a fair, then the Japanese companies will send representatives there. Hell, they send reps to San Diego and New York, they can send a lot more to Osaka, Kyoto or Kobe. But a more interesting idea would be to hold the fair in Saitama, Chiba or Kanagawa prefectures. Getting to, for example, Yokohama, would be quicker and easier than Tokyo Big Site for most of the Tokyo-based companies. And the TAF doesn't take up the entire Big Site, just a portion of a portion. I'm sure it could fit in some other convention center. And in any of those locations, there would be no Tokyo-only laws. I could see, if this law goes through, a new Akihabara-style otaku-based shopping town springing up near the border of either Saitama and Tokyo or Kanagawa and Tokyo. There, they could sell anything that Tokyo doesn't allow. I get the feeling that Ishihara thinks that, "Where Tokyo goes, Japan goes," but it would be sure fun to see if it just sends a lot of commerce to the surrounding prefectures. |
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CCSYueh
Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Sorry to burst your bubble but this is more likely the U.N. & their child exploitation campaign that has been upset eith Japan for years over the imaginary anime & manga children being abused. I assume Metropolitan refers to just the municipality of Tokyo so this is like various cities here like Frisco doing marriages for homosexuals when others in the state weren't or their recently banning fast food joints from offering toys with kid meals. In that perspective, fast food joints can comply, or they could not add outlets in the area or even choose to close outlets. Most likely they will comply, but this is the same for this. It is completely in the area of actions for these companies that so closely work with manga artists to put their money where their mouth is & refuse to play with Tokyo. If they aren't important to the event as somehere say, then it doesn't really matter. On the other hand Comic-Con International saw a certain number of cancellations this year as the Twilight franchise chose to to hold their own con (as overpriced as it sounded). How is it wrong or illegal or whatever? Tokyo is passing a law these businesses feel is detrimental to their business. One wouldn't insist beer companies had to attend a teetotaler convenetion, would one? The issue is, from what I've seen about the U.N project is it's one of those touchy-feely things. Is it a good thing to end actual child porn? Of course. Children are not able to give consent & really can't understand all of the implications involved in saying yes to sex. Even teens are a ball of emotion no sane adult would really want to be involved in unless they're looking for some sort of control (or are being controlled by the teen as some adults claim, but that's just pathetic. Who's the adult?) But that doesn't apply to made-up children. Is it gross to think of someone actually getting off on lolicon? Sure, but most of the guys who defend lolicon claim it's not like that & they don't so who are we to say otherwise? But this bill doesn't really touch that. We see Ishihara's prudish take on marital sex & presumably BL, but if this is to keep this stuff out of the hands of children, children shouldn't be accessing it because they already seem to have age ratings so this is a lot of bluster over absolutely squat. It's like some American city passing an ordinance outlawing slavery. It's already illegal. It just needs to be enforced. The dangerous side of this bill is it's rather arbitrary. It's like Texas saying they'd offer incentives to film companies to film there, but then deciding after the film Machete was made to deny granting the film the promised incentives because someone in the Governor's office felt it was a negative portrayal of Texans. One would assume Texas received all the benefits of employment, etc while the film was made. |
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